1 00:01:11,820 --> 00:01:08,060 [Music] 2 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:11,830 this hope radio for the masses headline 3 00:01:16,530 --> 00:01:15,250 the between July 1947 here on the 4 00:01:18,930 --> 00:01:16,540 airport through person I've been 5 00:01:21,510 --> 00:01:18,940 applying this has been found and is now 6 00:01:24,750 --> 00:01:21,520 in the possession of the RA the game is 7 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:24,760 rigged changed the game 8 00:01:32,219 --> 00:01:27,880 I occasionally think how quickly our 9 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:32,229 differences worldwide would vanish if we 10 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:34,840 were facing an alien threat from outside 11 00:01:43,330 --> 00:01:40,080 [Applause] 12 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:43,340 this is fade to black with your host 13 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:46,310 Jimmy Church on the game changer radio 14 00:01:53,290 --> 00:01:49,490 network and a GRA the global radio 15 00:02:02,160 --> 00:01:58,460 I need your help to get to the year 1980 16 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:02,170 [Music] 17 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:04,140 you listen to fate 18 00:02:07,250 --> 00:02:06,330 with Jimmy judge on the game change in 19 00:02:17,130 --> 00:02:07,260 that blood 20 00:02:17,140 --> 00:02:23,550 good evening fade to black 21 00:02:30,220 --> 00:02:25,230 misspoke radio 22 00:02:35,350 --> 00:02:30,230 [Music] 23 00:02:39,630 --> 00:02:35,360 masses DTM and you do die you know 24 00:02:48,650 --> 00:02:39,640 today's Wednesday April 8th 2020 25 00:02:54,030 --> 00:02:52,380 we're live from a bunker 26 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:54,040 somewhere in the middle of beautiful 27 00:02:57,390 --> 00:02:55,810 downtown Burbank California and I would 28 00:02:59,880 --> 00:02:57,400 like to welcome everybody listening all 29 00:03:02,640 --> 00:02:59,890 around the world all across the United 30 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:05,460 hither and thither to and fro back and 31 00:03:11,729 --> 00:03:09,040 forth up and down east and west north 32 00:03:11,910 --> 00:03:11,739 and south far and near this is fade to 33 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:11,920 black 34 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:13,890 [Music] 35 00:03:18,770 --> 00:03:16,410 for kjc are the game changer network in 36 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:18,780 kg ra the planet I am your host Jimmy 37 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:19,290 Church 38 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:22,310 what is rec and everybody how you doing 39 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:26,400 how you doing what an amazing week here 40 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:27,390 on fade to black 41 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:30,510 tonight we are continuing with Paola 42 00:03:37,820 --> 00:03:34,050 Harris that's right we're gonna do it 43 00:03:41,150 --> 00:03:37,830 all tonight very open conversation all 44 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:41,160 the UFO news that you can handle will be 45 00:03:44,990 --> 00:03:42,480 going down tonight 46 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:45,000 also gonna discuss Steven Greer's new 47 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:46,890 film that was released last night 48 00:03:53,390 --> 00:03:50,489 and which is called Close Encounters of 49 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:53,400 the fifth kind and a little programming 50 00:04:00,400 --> 00:03:56,730 note I will have dr. Greer on with me 51 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:00,410 this Saturday over at coast to coast am 52 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:03,510 all right so that's going down let's see 53 00:04:10,070 --> 00:04:06,720 who else today's Wednesday who cares 54 00:04:12,140 --> 00:04:10,080 I'll just announce it in advance also 55 00:04:16,280 --> 00:04:12,150 with me Saturday night over at coast to 56 00:04:19,039 --> 00:04:16,290 coast deep Prasad Steven Greer and 57 00:04:20,750 --> 00:04:19,049 deeper sod on a Saturday night on coast 58 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:20,760 to coast so it's pretty cool that is 59 00:04:25,730 --> 00:04:24,210 pretty cool so that is this Saturday 60 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:25,740 tomorrow night of course is another 61 00:04:29,719 --> 00:04:28,560 Fator night with open lines all night 62 00:04:32,180 --> 00:04:29,729 long 63 00:04:34,130 --> 00:04:32,190 all right let's let's get things moving 64 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:34,140 straight away here you can follow me on 65 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:37,650 Twitter at JDO and twitter is live right 66 00:04:43,730 --> 00:04:40,890 up in front of me a hashtag F to B is 67 00:04:47,150 --> 00:04:43,740 the sandbox and if you want to follow 68 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:47,160 what's going on right now Tampa Ric all 69 00:04:52,990 --> 00:04:49,950 of the fader knots are posting gifts but 70 00:04:56,690 --> 00:04:53,000 he did this really cool a Steve Vai 71 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:56,700 pretty pretty amazing love me some Steve 72 00:05:00,380 --> 00:04:58,650 Vai that's a pretty cool Wow look at all 73 00:05:05,060 --> 00:05:00,390 the guitars all guitars tonight 74 00:05:11,390 --> 00:05:05,070 got some Zappa in there and is that you 75 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:13,820 we got Clint Eastwood playing a Les Paul 76 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:15,690 that's cool that's cool 77 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:20,010 that's alright what is this one and that 78 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:23,370 is pretty cool - that is the Three 79 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:26,370 Stooges yeah that's pretty cool okay all 80 00:05:29,780 --> 00:05:26,880 right 81 00:05:31,969 --> 00:05:29,790 the street The Three Stooges playing in 82 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:31,979 a punk band is what that is and you can 83 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:34,440 look at all of that at hashtag f2b 84 00:05:46,730 --> 00:05:38,820 the sandbox alright alright 85 00:05:48,170 --> 00:05:46,740 oh man oh okay I'm not gonna say what I 86 00:05:49,930 --> 00:05:48,180 was just gonna say I was gonna say 87 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:49,940 something but I just noticed something 88 00:05:53,810 --> 00:05:52,050 and there you go 89 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:53,820 alright we got somebody van Halen okay 90 00:05:58,850 --> 00:05:55,110 you go and check it out right now 91 00:06:02,060 --> 00:05:58,860 hashtag f2b is the sandbox hashtag f2b Q 92 00:06:03,890 --> 00:06:02,070 is fade to black questions so you can 93 00:06:06,860 --> 00:06:03,900 post your questions or comments right 94 00:06:09,370 --> 00:06:06,870 there and I will get to them for myself 95 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:09,380 or my guest tonight Paul Aires okay 96 00:06:19,129 --> 00:06:14,970 where I'm at email is Jimmy at Jimmy 97 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:19,139 Church radio.com okay alright and I will 98 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:20,760 get to all of that too as well 99 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:23,160 I've been announcing my little public 100 00:06:28,490 --> 00:06:25,050 service announcement for the last couple 101 00:06:31,159 --> 00:06:28,500 of weeks has been right there and it is 102 00:06:36,020 --> 00:06:31,169 all about your immune system right now 103 00:06:39,589 --> 00:06:36,030 right now now not tomorrow not yesterday 104 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:39,599 right now get your immune system in 105 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:43,500 check so easy to do just head over to 106 00:06:50,180 --> 00:06:47,370 get the t.com that's all you got to do 107 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:50,190 and you can get everything fixed you 108 00:06:55,339 --> 00:06:51,860 will fear nothing 109 00:06:59,240 --> 00:06:55,349 everything fears you when your immune 110 00:07:02,450 --> 00:06:59,250 system is in check okay go to get the 111 00:07:04,670 --> 00:07:02,460 t.com visit their specials page you're 112 00:07:07,190 --> 00:07:04,680 in alright just click on the banner over 113 00:07:12,980 --> 00:07:07,200 at Jimmy Church radio calm use the promo 114 00:07:16,339 --> 00:07:12,990 code fader F a de R fader every order 115 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:16,349 over 50 bucks free shipping there's your 116 00:07:21,860 --> 00:07:17,570 discount right there 117 00:07:25,310 --> 00:07:21,870 get the t.com I just that is my 118 00:07:29,690 --> 00:07:25,320 community service message right there 119 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:29,700 last week I announced one of our good 120 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:31,890 friends and our newest sponsor here at 121 00:07:36,110 --> 00:07:33,000 fade to black 122 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:36,120 is Billy 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the 137 00:08:18,350 --> 00:08:15,720 biggest news that I can bring to the 138 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:18,360 fader not community and that is River 139 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:21,690 moon coffee is now available on Amazon 140 00:08:27,410 --> 00:08:24,570 that's a really big deal okay now you 141 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:27,420 can visit their new store now and I saw 142 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:29,520 shot from know Cal posting earlier that 143 00:08:35,690 --> 00:08:33,210 he went over to the Amazon Prime store 144 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:35,700 for River Moon and our new fade to black 145 00:08:39,469 --> 00:08:38,010 blend game changer is not there yet it's 146 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:39,479 good to be up in a couple of days takes 147 00:08:46,220 --> 00:08:42,810 a while to get it done it may be up 148 00:08:49,370 --> 00:08:46,230 already though over on their website at 149 00:08:52,220 --> 00:08:49,380 River Moon coffee calm but anyway go 150 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:52,230 over to the Amazon store the all the 151 00:08:56,750 --> 00:08:54,240 coffee's already discounted and get free 152 00:09:00,050 --> 00:08:56,760 shipping if you're an Amazon Prime fade 153 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:00,060 or not right there you go and if you use 154 00:09:04,460 --> 00:09:01,290 the promo code 155 00:09:06,740 --> 00:09:04,470 Jimmy RMC that's Jimmy River Moon coffee 156 00:09:10,700 --> 00:09:06,750 who can't figure that out Jimmy RMC all 157 00:09:13,580 --> 00:09:10,710 caps I think all caps is what works you 158 00:09:16,010 --> 00:09:13,590 get another five percent off so there 159 00:09:19,730 --> 00:09:16,020 you go all right all right 160 00:09:22,340 --> 00:09:19,740 River moon coffee man the best alright a 161 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:22,350 couple of things Paola Harris's with us 162 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:26,130 tonight and her conference which is the 163 00:09:31,790 --> 00:09:28,650 Starworks UFOs and artificial 164 00:09:34,010 --> 00:09:31,800 intelligence conference in Laughlin 165 00:09:37,490 --> 00:09:34,020 Nevada which is November 5th through the 166 00:09:38,510 --> 00:09:37,500 8th is still on and it's going to be 167 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:38,520 bigger and better 168 00:09:44,390 --> 00:09:41,730 than ever before and this year we've got 169 00:09:46,010 --> 00:09:44,400 grand camera and Paul Hynek James Fox in 170 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:46,020 his new movie the phenomenon 171 00:09:50,510 --> 00:09:48,330 Alan Stillman is going to be there's 172 00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:50,520 going to be great sid goldberg is going 173 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:53,640 to be there and Paola has got another 174 00:09:58,610 --> 00:09:56,880 dozen or so more great speakers and 175 00:10:00,320 --> 00:09:58,620 presenters you're gonna want to check it 176 00:10:03,530 --> 00:10:00,330 out all right now I'm gonna be there 177 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:03,540 hosting Rita's gonna be there our entire 178 00:10:08,020 --> 00:10:06,000 fade to black crew is going to be there 179 00:10:10,940 --> 00:10:08,030 all you have to do is go to star works 180 00:10:14,210 --> 00:10:10,950 usa.com for tickets and info very 181 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:14,220 excited about this and we are all by 182 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:17,460 November gonna be really ready to go out 183 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:19,010 and get it done 184 00:10:25,010 --> 00:10:22,650 escape the homestead and it will be 185 00:10:27,380 --> 00:10:25,020 happening November 5th through the 8th 186 00:10:30,020 --> 00:10:27,390 up in Laughlin Nevada Starworks 187 00:10:34,670 --> 00:10:30,030 us a.com the links over to maturity Oh 188 00:10:39,140 --> 00:10:34,680 calm today I hosted the disclosure fest 189 00:10:41,180 --> 00:10:39,150 livestream again and a very very cool 190 00:10:43,550 --> 00:10:41,190 day over there I did it yesterday I'm 191 00:10:47,510 --> 00:10:43,560 doing it today and as as well as next 192 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:47,520 week and the disclosure fest event which 193 00:10:51,890 --> 00:10:50,160 is held downtown at the historic Los 194 00:10:54,260 --> 00:10:51,900 Angeles Park in downtown Los Angeles 195 00:10:56,510 --> 00:10:54,270 right next to Chinatown and if you 196 00:10:59,270 --> 00:10:56,520 haven't been there yet it is an amazing 197 00:11:03,680 --> 00:10:59,280 event last year we had 20,000 people 198 00:11:05,150 --> 00:11:03,690 there and it's one day well the state of 199 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:05,160 California in the city of Los Angeles 200 00:11:10,730 --> 00:11:07,770 have said and we are in contact with 201 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:10,740 them constantly this is a big event they 202 00:11:15,710 --> 00:11:13,170 have said for now that the event can 203 00:11:18,530 --> 00:11:15,720 happen and will go on if it changes 204 00:11:22,250 --> 00:11:18,540 right we will let you know we're talking 205 00:11:24,830 --> 00:11:22,260 about 20,000 25,000 attendees this year 206 00:11:27,380 --> 00:11:24,840 and with any event that large we need to 207 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:27,390 make sure that everybody is safe so if 208 00:11:32,810 --> 00:11:29,850 we do move the date ahead a month like 209 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:32,820 into late August we will let you know 210 00:11:38,180 --> 00:11:35,940 right here on fade to black and you can 211 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:38,190 check out all of the latest news over at 212 00:11:43,580 --> 00:11:41,850 disclosure fest dot org very simple to 213 00:11:45,950 --> 00:11:43,590 get to and you can certainly click on it 214 00:11:49,810 --> 00:11:45,960 at Jimmy Church radio calm I've posted 215 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:49,820 all over social media today asking about 216 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:52,050 gas prices 217 00:11:56,990 --> 00:11:54,450 I just have to know you know what are 218 00:11:59,710 --> 00:11:57,000 you guys paying around the country right 219 00:12:02,780 --> 00:11:59,720 now because here in Southern California 220 00:12:05,449 --> 00:12:02,790 believe it or not and I watched all the 221 00:12:09,199 --> 00:12:05,459 post today today in Southern California 222 00:12:12,769 --> 00:12:09,209 we are still paying $3 per gallon that's 223 00:12:16,190 --> 00:12:12,779 right three bucks three ducks quacking 224 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:16,200 in the pond for a gallon of gas you can 225 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:19,470 find regular gas around here in the 226 00:12:24,319 --> 00:12:22,649 valley for about 269 right now but we 227 00:12:26,060 --> 00:12:24,329 are still waiting for those cheap prices 228 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:26,070 that the rest of the country is seeing 229 00:12:36,740 --> 00:12:30,720 and I got reports today ninety nine 230 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:36,750 cents a gallon you know I'd say that 231 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:39,120 ninety nine cents a gallon I'd say that 232 00:12:43,490 --> 00:12:40,500 the average around the country is about 233 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:43,500 a buck fifty which is really really cool 234 00:12:47,509 --> 00:12:46,110 but what are you seeing these days I 235 00:12:50,540 --> 00:12:47,519 want to see it right now live in real 236 00:12:52,490 --> 00:12:50,550 time and post it up on twitter at GH 237 00:12:55,190 --> 00:12:52,500 radio use hashtag f2b 238 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:55,200 and i want to see what your local gas 239 00:13:01,730 --> 00:12:57,450 prices are so post it up in twitter and 240 00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:01,740 it's okay to brag it's okay rub it in 241 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:04,680 look when you guys have snow up to here 242 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:06,959 and we're here in Southern California 243 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:10,079 and I'm broadcasting the show wearing 244 00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:12,060 shorts and flip-flops 245 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:15,120 you know I rub that into so we've got it 246 00:13:18,650 --> 00:13:16,890 we've got to come in to us right now I 247 00:13:20,780 --> 00:13:18,660 get it but what are you guys paying 248 00:13:22,910 --> 00:13:20,790 believe it or not we're still paying 249 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:22,920 three bucks a gallon Brian just said a 250 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:27,690 dollar fifty one man man dollar 49 for 251 00:13:34,699 --> 00:13:32,010 Tampa Ric that's crazy I mean I that's 252 00:13:38,750 --> 00:13:34,709 got to be the best feeling here's what 253 00:13:40,310 --> 00:13:38,760 we did a couple of weeks ago when all of 254 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:40,320 this lockdown stuff started to happen 255 00:13:45,410 --> 00:13:42,270 Rita said okay take out all the cars 256 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:45,420 fill them up full of gas in case 257 00:13:49,579 --> 00:13:47,730 anything happens I want to make sure you 258 00:13:51,620 --> 00:13:49,589 know that's Rita I want to make sure we 259 00:13:55,930 --> 00:13:51,630 have full tanks of gas so I go out JT 260 00:13:58,819 --> 00:13:55,940 says a buck 49 in Indy Roanoke Virginia 261 00:14:02,840 --> 00:13:58,829 a dollar fifty a gallon that's from 262 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:02,850 third stone studios Wow Donny Douglas 263 00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:05,390 says 86 cents a liter I don't even 264 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:07,870 what that is is that the metric system 265 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:13,190 no J says 229 in Buffalo New York 266 00:14:21,610 --> 00:14:15,170 oh you guys okay it's not that cheap in 267 00:14:26,050 --> 00:14:21,620 Buffalo yet R and s dollar 49 in Lincoln 268 00:14:30,970 --> 00:14:26,060 Nebraska Wow bud Lake what is that 269 00:14:35,770 --> 00:14:30,980 bud Lake New Jersey toddler 19 Wow Don 270 00:14:38,830 --> 00:14:35,780 learn $19 30 a leader in Australia 271 00:14:40,810 --> 00:14:38,840 what okay look all of you metric system 272 00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:40,820 people do the conversion to a gallon I 273 00:14:45,340 --> 00:14:43,310 don't even know what that is I have no 274 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:45,350 idea what's it is it two and a half 275 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:48,670 liters to a gallon so I got to do math 276 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:51,730 but a dollar thirty liter sounds cheap 277 00:14:56,950 --> 00:14:54,290 Chuck Ellie it says three bucks still 278 00:14:59,610 --> 00:14:56,960 for diesel Bo in Pennsylvania no diesel 279 00:15:03,370 --> 00:14:59,620 prices are still holding strong here in 280 00:15:05,830 --> 00:15:03,380 in Southern California so Wisconsin two 281 00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:05,840 bucks Wow okay all right 282 00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:07,310 man these are coming in really fast 283 00:15:11,830 --> 00:15:10,910 central Virginia buck $35 50 and Indy 284 00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:11,840 from Terry 285 00:15:15,850 --> 00:15:14,000 how you doing Terry how's the family 286 00:15:21,370 --> 00:15:15,860 Mike Nelson says a buck forty five in 287 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:21,380 he's in Texas and 90 92 cents a gallon 288 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:23,510 in Oklahoma 289 00:15:30,250 --> 00:15:27,170 holy mackerel is that that's Wow how 290 00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:30,260 okay so we filled up the tanks last week 291 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:32,990 and with the amount of two weeks ago 292 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:34,790 with the amount of driving that we are 293 00:15:38,950 --> 00:15:37,310 doing right now it's gonna take me a 294 00:15:44,290 --> 00:15:38,960 couple of months and we filled it up and 295 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:44,300 it was still 350 375 in Catalan so at 296 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:45,890 least we got full tanks of gas but by 297 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:49,250 the time we burn through this gas maybe 298 00:15:52,750 --> 00:15:51,110 the gas prices are gonna go back up and 299 00:15:55,210 --> 00:15:52,760 we're totally gonna miss all the fun 300 00:15:57,510 --> 00:15:55,220 that everybody is having right now so 301 00:16:00,850 --> 00:15:57,520 you get to fill up for 99 cents a gallon 302 00:16:05,050 --> 00:16:00,860 but you don't get to drive your car kind 303 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:05,060 of defeats the purpose right don't you 304 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:07,490 want to just 99 cents in Gold Coast 305 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:13,330 Australia wow wow that's from UFO tweets 306 00:16:17,970 --> 00:16:16,910 99 cents unbelievable is that a leader 307 00:16:20,910 --> 00:16:17,980 or a gal 308 00:16:25,139 --> 00:16:20,920 filled up when it was still 349 I know 309 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:25,149 right I get it from Kevin in West 310 00:16:30,180 --> 00:16:25,870 Virginia 311 00:16:34,199 --> 00:16:30,190 so yeah you know you got this cheap gas 312 00:16:35,910 --> 00:16:34,209 and you can't you know fill up a couple 313 00:16:38,850 --> 00:16:35,920 of times to drive across the country at 314 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:38,860 99 cents a whack that would just be 315 00:16:41,460 --> 00:16:39,550 wonderful 316 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:41,470 okay all right keep it coming I want to 317 00:16:48,180 --> 00:16:44,320 see what everybody is paying around the 318 00:16:53,970 --> 00:16:48,190 country I let's just enjoy it 319 00:16:55,530 --> 00:16:53,980 let's see dollar nineteen man man enjoy 320 00:17:01,949 --> 00:16:55,540 it that's all I gotta say I have an 321 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:01,959 electric car don't make fun of me what 322 00:17:07,710 --> 00:17:05,890 is that electric drive a smart you got 323 00:17:11,579 --> 00:17:07,720 an electric smart car that's pretty cool 324 00:17:13,770 --> 00:17:11,589 forty miles an hour man all day long all 325 00:17:15,569 --> 00:17:13,780 day long how long does that take you to 326 00:17:17,130 --> 00:17:15,579 charge up that's the thing how long does 327 00:17:20,669 --> 00:17:17,140 it take to charge a smart car a couple 328 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:20,679 hours I see you got a plugged in there 329 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:22,510 it's pretty cool Corey good for you man 330 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:25,809 good for you all right 331 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:28,960 let's see where am I at let's just get 332 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:31,830 straight to it happy birthday to today 333 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:37,600 Asia and yes guitarists guitar God Steve 334 00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:41,650 Howe today 73 years old I'm just gonna 335 00:17:45,539 --> 00:17:43,900 say it right now all of yes songs when 336 00:17:49,970 --> 00:17:45,549 Simon hello it's the best what's the mat 337 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:49,980 all of yes songs their live album great 338 00:17:57,690 --> 00:17:53,410 G and ROG Izzy Stradlin 339 00:18:01,680 --> 00:17:57,700 today is 58 years old and Julian Lennon 340 00:18:05,159 --> 00:18:01,690 today is 57 do you remember his hit song 341 00:18:07,890 --> 00:18:05,169 and don't google it don't don't google 342 00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:07,900 it what was his hit let me see it pop up 343 00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:09,870 there and Twitter on this day in history 344 00:18:16,110 --> 00:18:15,280 1990 who killed Laura Palmer that's 345 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:16,120 right 346 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:20,290 April 8th 1990 David Lynch's surreal 347 00:18:30,990 --> 00:18:23,890 television drama Twin Peaks premiered on 348 00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:31,000 ABC version number two excellent trippy 349 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:33,000 but excellent then they had that whole 350 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:37,450 et alien gray alien dude in the tank at 351 00:18:43,460 --> 00:18:40,450 the top of that crazy bill and nothing 352 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:43,470 ever came that was such an amazing show 353 00:18:48,570 --> 00:18:46,809 and they never you know episode I should 354 00:18:52,380 --> 00:18:48,580 say and they never went back to it look 355 00:18:55,890 --> 00:18:52,390 at Olivia in her mask with her fade the 356 00:18:58,529 --> 00:18:55,900 blacks sure or not Olivia I'm saving 357 00:19:02,370 --> 00:18:58,539 this and I'm posting this all over 358 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:02,380 Twitter and all over social media 359 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:07,210 Olivia F and there it is that's going 360 00:19:14,669 --> 00:19:09,700 all over the world Olivia thank you for 361 00:19:20,430 --> 00:19:14,679 that I love it that is real all right 362 00:19:24,299 --> 00:19:20,440 Bader fact Soviet cosmonauts took shot 363 00:19:27,149 --> 00:19:24,309 guns to space that's right every flight 364 00:19:29,399 --> 00:19:27,159 and this wasn't to fight off any 365 00:19:32,279 --> 00:19:29,409 capitalist aliens that they might 366 00:19:34,649 --> 00:19:32,289 encounter while orbiting the Earth no it 367 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:34,659 was for when they returned to Earth in 368 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:37,809 case they landed in Siberia and had to 369 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:42,370 fend off hungry bears and that is your 370 00:19:45,899 --> 00:19:44,500 favor fact well wait what did the 371 00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:45,909 shotgun went off accidentally 372 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:48,070 all right maybe there's no ammo in it 373 00:19:54,270 --> 00:19:53,049 you ammo up once you land in Siberia 374 00:19:56,610 --> 00:19:54,280 maybe that's how they handle it 375 00:19:58,529 --> 00:19:56,620 interesting though right that is your 376 00:20:01,610 --> 00:19:58,539 fader fact tonight Paola Harris is here 377 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:01,620 and we're gonna have a very open-ended 378 00:20:06,419 --> 00:20:03,850 conversation tonight on the subject of 379 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:06,429 UFOs and tomorrow night's another Fator 380 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:08,260 night we're gonna be giving away for 381 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:10,510 fade to black memberships to those in 382 00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:14,110 need and who are staying at home Olivia 383 00:20:22,169 --> 00:20:20,230 I love that picture oh man that is worth 384 00:20:29,010 --> 00:20:22,179 a million dollars alright let me hit 385 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:29,020 this River moon coffee River boom coffee 386 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:35,470 calm f2b blend you can blend two as well 387 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:41,000 there have been so many different 388 00:20:45,650 --> 00:20:43,620 theories about UFOs a meaty spacecraft 389 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:45,660 over the years try to cover as much of 390 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:47,730 it as I can right here you know what 391 00:20:53,090 --> 00:20:50,610 they are made of who are piloting them 392 00:20:56,660 --> 00:20:53,100 and of course the two most important 393 00:20:59,240 --> 00:20:56,670 questions which are where do they come 394 00:21:02,900 --> 00:20:59,250 from and how are they getting here right 395 00:21:05,770 --> 00:21:02,910 that's it well as we understand more and 396 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:05,780 more about not only our solar system our 397 00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:08,400 Milky Way in the universe that surrounds 398 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:12,390 us we have a much better grip on what it 399 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:14,370 takes to travel the vast distances 400 00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:17,190 between the stars and although the 401 00:21:23,390 --> 00:21:19,740 universe is infinitely huge our Milky 402 00:21:25,970 --> 00:21:23,400 Way is absolutely giant we don't really 403 00:21:28,250 --> 00:21:25,980 think about it much though because you 404 00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:28,260 can go outside and look up at the stars 405 00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:30,840 and check it out for yourself it just 406 00:21:37,370 --> 00:21:33,900 doesn't look that big you can see it 407 00:21:42,770 --> 00:21:37,380 every single day it's right there our 408 00:21:45,890 --> 00:21:42,780 little slice of the universe is big it's 409 00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:45,900 really really big let me give you some 410 00:21:54,890 --> 00:21:48,480 numbers the Milky Way has a visible 411 00:21:58,730 --> 00:21:54,900 diameter between 150,000 and 200,000 412 00:22:02,060 --> 00:21:58,740 lightyears think about that it is 413 00:22:06,650 --> 00:22:02,070 estimated to contain 500 billion stars 414 00:22:10,220 --> 00:22:06,660 probably more and more than 500 billion 415 00:22:12,740 --> 00:22:10,230 planets some estimates are one trillion 416 00:22:14,990 --> 00:22:12,750 planets the dark matter halo around the 417 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:15,000 Milky Way may span as much as two 418 00:22:23,860 --> 00:22:19,650 million light years our solar system is 419 00:22:25,820 --> 00:22:23,870 located at a radius of about 27 lights 420 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:25,830 27,000 light years from the galactic 421 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:30,330 center which is a black hole all right 422 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:32,250 and we are on the inner edge of what 423 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:35,970 they call the Orion Arm our Milky Way is 424 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:38,370 huge it's truly huge those are big 425 00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:43,050 numbers vast vast distances of space and 426 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:47,700 time and right now it's estimated that 427 00:22:51,379 --> 00:22:50,850 there are around 20 billion planets that 428 00:22:57,019 --> 00:22:51,389 are 429 00:23:00,769 --> 00:22:57,029 perfectly placed in the Goldilocks zone 430 00:23:05,239 --> 00:23:00,779 near its star and probably can support 431 00:23:09,129 --> 00:23:05,249 life okay so let's ask the question now 432 00:23:17,869 --> 00:23:14,139 how does ET conquer these vast distances 433 00:23:26,589 --> 00:23:17,879 how does that happen and the answer is 434 00:23:30,829 --> 00:23:26,599 simple it's easy that's it it's easy 435 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:30,839 today we understand so much about more 436 00:23:35,060 --> 00:23:32,849 about space we understand more about 437 00:23:36,829 --> 00:23:35,070 physics and the technology that would be 438 00:23:39,019 --> 00:23:36,839 needed to travel to the stars and we 439 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:39,029 discuss it every single day Frank 440 00:23:45,859 --> 00:23:42,690 Herbert tackle this in his 1965 science 441 00:23:49,729 --> 00:23:45,869 fiction novel dune with his space 442 00:23:52,639 --> 00:23:49,739 navigators who use the spice Milosh to 443 00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:52,649 fold space now this concept still 444 00:23:58,399 --> 00:23:55,559 fascinates me today and not the spice 445 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:58,409 part although anything is possible right 446 00:24:05,329 --> 00:24:01,440 and I'm unhip to that it's the folding 447 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:05,339 space part that really grabs me do you 448 00:24:11,389 --> 00:24:07,769 remember the warp drive by physicist 449 00:24:13,999 --> 00:24:11,399 Miguel Alcubierre remember that talked 450 00:24:19,209 --> 00:24:14,009 about a lot on this show his drive 451 00:24:22,909 --> 00:24:19,219 concept did exactly that it folded space 452 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:22,919 the Miguel's drive wasn't an engine like 453 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:26,369 on Star Trek that's different okay 454 00:24:33,949 --> 00:24:30,450 his warp drive would remove the space in 455 00:24:37,879 --> 00:24:33,959 front of you and place it to the rear of 456 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:37,889 your ship okay all right you got that 457 00:24:44,499 --> 00:24:42,570 you would actually be moving you 458 00:24:47,810 --> 00:24:44,509 wouldn't be moving and he wouldn't be 459 00:24:50,899 --> 00:24:47,820 moving at warp speed he would simply 460 00:24:52,940 --> 00:24:50,909 arrive at your destination instantly 461 00:24:55,339 --> 00:24:52,950 because all of the light-years of 462 00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:55,349 distance in front of you are swapped out 463 00:25:02,299 --> 00:24:58,320 you take that you put it behind you and 464 00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:02,309 you just arrive okay you have to 465 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:04,600 understand that concept it's moved from 466 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:08,769 to back kind of like folding space be 467 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:10,210 nice if you drove your car like that 468 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:12,580 right you want to go to Phoenix you cut 469 00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,289 out the distance between you in Phoenix 470 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:16,000 you just put it behind you in Los 471 00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:18,250 Angeles and you're immediately in 472 00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:20,230 Phoenix that's the deal 473 00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:25,990 now ET may or may not be using a warp 474 00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:29,320 drive but they must be doing something 475 00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:32,080 very similar and it's easy for them to 476 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:36,220 do you just choose your destination flip 477 00:25:43,169 --> 00:25:39,090 a switch click a button and presto 478 00:25:45,450 --> 00:25:43,179 now remember absorb this for a second 479 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:45,460 because at one point and about a hundred 480 00:25:52,259 --> 00:25:49,000 years ago cars and gas engines were huge 481 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:52,269 big leaps and technology getting engines 482 00:25:59,940 --> 00:25:56,730 designed and working seemed like magic 483 00:26:03,119 --> 00:25:59,950 right and why wouldn't it and over time 484 00:26:08,009 --> 00:26:03,129 we have nearly perfected that technology 485 00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:08,019 to the point where it's all easy today 486 00:26:13,049 --> 00:26:10,750 obviously we have cars we've got 487 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:13,059 gasoline cars electric cars hydrogen 488 00:26:16,649 --> 00:26:15,250 cars Cory just posted his electric smart 489 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:16,659 car up there he didn't even know what I 490 00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:18,490 was talking about tonight he posted his 491 00:26:22,769 --> 00:26:20,529 electric smart car we've got those we've 492 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:22,779 got electric bikes we've got Electric 493 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:24,970 skateboards and scooters personal 494 00:26:33,090 --> 00:26:29,110 transportation tech is well simple and 495 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:33,100 easy today you just think it you build 496 00:26:39,419 --> 00:26:36,490 it and you write it and you're done it 497 00:26:42,139 --> 00:26:39,429 has to have been the same way for any 498 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:42,149 advanced civilization out there at first 499 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:46,240 folding space was like magic technology 500 00:26:51,379 --> 00:26:49,090 to them but soon over time they 501 00:26:55,470 --> 00:26:51,389 perfected it to a point of it being easy 502 00:26:58,529 --> 00:26:55,480 simple everyday tech just like a Cessna 503 00:27:02,610 --> 00:26:58,539 150 is to us today you know the 504 00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:02,620 Volkswagen of the skies right well right 505 00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:05,769 now most of us are focused on the speed 506 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:07,870 of light and the light years that are 507 00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:09,610 used for measurement in the heavens I 508 00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:11,860 understand that we are stuck with 509 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:14,230 current thoughts and theories and 510 00:27:19,770 --> 00:27:17,020 technologies physicists today 511 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:19,780 say that it's impossible to think about 512 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:21,810 traveling even to the closest stars 513 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:25,510 because of the time it would take to get 514 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:27,850 there and I hear it dismissed all the 515 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:31,930 time now with current engine technology 516 00:27:36,780 --> 00:27:34,630 it would take thousands of years to make 517 00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:36,790 it to Alpha Centauri closest are four 518 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:38,350 and a half light-years away at the speed 519 00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:41,440 of light by the time anyone arrived at a 520 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:44,830 or B we would have forgotten about the 521 00:27:51,090 --> 00:27:48,850 astronauts and their names who signed up 522 00:27:53,850 --> 00:27:51,100 for that trip in the first place in fact 523 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:53,860 by the time they would arrive at Alpha 524 00:27:58,050 --> 00:27:56,080 Centauri we would have figured out how 525 00:28:01,560 --> 00:27:58,060 to fold space and when they pulled up to 526 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:01,570 their new space Basecamp that they were 527 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:04,060 getting ready to construct we would have 528 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:06,790 already built a city or two ahead of 529 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:10,840 them so yeah it's time we concentrate on 530 00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:13,090 folding space and building a warp drive 531 00:28:19,890 --> 00:28:16,300 let's forget about lighting a fuse on 532 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:19,900 the end of a firecracker that's right 533 00:28:23,970 --> 00:28:22,570 this is what et did a million years ago 534 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:23,980 now I guarantee it 535 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:27,310 Frank Herbert told us about it fifty 536 00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:31,030 years ago in dune this is fade to black 537 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:32,740 I am your host Jimmy church tonight 538 00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:34,930 Paula Harris is here we're gonna talk 539 00:28:42,660 --> 00:28:38,830 UFOs all night long you can join us on 540 00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:42,670 Twitter right now at JT Radio hashtag F 541 00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:46,420 to B is the sandbox hashtag 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--> 00:32:55,279 welcome back fade to black Camaro super 615 00:33:02,350 --> 00:32:59,450 church tonight Paula Harris yeah man 616 00:33:04,930 --> 00:33:02,360 here we go we're gonna talk to you 617 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:04,940 opposed all night long tonight I can't 618 00:33:11,710 --> 00:33:09,049 wait for this I just held up the AI 619 00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:11,720 robot that she gave to me she gifted 620 00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:15,470 this to me at the Constance life expo 621 00:33:19,289 --> 00:33:18,470 more on this little guy here in just a 622 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:19,299 minute 623 00:33:23,889 --> 00:33:22,130 she's a photojournalist an investigative 624 00:33:25,870 --> 00:33:23,899 reporter in the field of UFOs and 625 00:33:28,210 --> 00:33:25,880 extraterrestrial related phenomena 626 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:28,220 research with the master's degree in 627 00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:30,529 education she is also widely published 628 00:33:35,289 --> 00:33:32,950 freelance writer she has studied 629 00:33:39,850 --> 00:33:35,299 extraterrestrial aided phenomena since 630 00:33:42,370 --> 00:33:39,860 1979 and from 1980 to 1986 she assisted 631 00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:42,380 dr. J Allen Hynek her books include 632 00:33:47,710 --> 00:33:45,110 connecting the dots making sense of the 633 00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:47,720 UFO phenomena how do you speak to a ball 634 00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:48,409 of light 635 00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:51,230 Exopolitics Stargate to a new reality 636 00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:53,950 above all and beyond and her latest book 637 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:57,260 conversations with Colonel Corso she has 638 00:34:00,340 --> 00:33:58,370 spoken around the world including 639 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:00,350 Ireland England Norway Switzerland 640 00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:02,809 Colombia Argentina Chile Germany and 641 00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:05,440 Belgium her production company is 642 00:34:11,230 --> 00:34:09,470 Starworks USA LLC she produces the star 643 00:34:13,629 --> 00:34:11,240 works you will say Laughlin UFOs in 644 00:34:14,970 --> 00:34:13,639 consciousness November conferences which 645 00:34:17,530 --> 00:34:14,980 focus on disclosure 646 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:17,540 consciousness-raising an EXO political 647 00:34:22,030 --> 00:34:20,330 dialogue with international speakers I 648 00:34:26,619 --> 00:34:22,040 would like to welcome back to fade to 649 00:34:30,099 --> 00:34:26,629 black Paula Harris how are you doing hi 650 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:30,109 Jimmy how are you I am fantastic thank 651 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:33,169 you for asking and you know what I have 652 00:34:40,329 --> 00:34:36,050 to go bot so I just bought two more I 653 00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:40,339 got four in the house with this you know 654 00:34:46,589 --> 00:34:43,310 shelter and place here I'm living with 655 00:34:50,589 --> 00:34:46,599 these four robots and having so much fun 656 00:34:53,230 --> 00:34:50,599 and they are just I don't know if you've 657 00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:53,240 played with yours but they supposed to 658 00:34:56,889 --> 00:34:54,950 do what you tell them to do and when 659 00:34:57,890 --> 00:34:56,899 they don't I get really angry 660 00:35:01,069 --> 00:34:57,900 well the good 661 00:35:04,759 --> 00:35:01,079 is this guy's going to be hosting fade 662 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:04,769 to black soon I I can take some time off 663 00:35:10,099 --> 00:35:08,730 and we'll see what happens by November 664 00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:10,109 what this guy is going to be doing but 665 00:35:14,930 --> 00:35:13,140 thank you for this and he is very very 666 00:35:17,539 --> 00:35:14,940 cool and he's always with me down here 667 00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:17,549 in the bunker so there you go thank you 668 00:35:23,299 --> 00:35:21,240 for this I just showed everybody on the 669 00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:23,309 bunker cam what he looks like oh there 670 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,180 it is right there they're already 671 00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:26,640 posting pictures very cool 672 00:35:33,499 --> 00:35:31,980 now now but before we get to AI I want 673 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:33,509 to talk about your conference a little 674 00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:37,529 bit because everything that is normal is 675 00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:39,900 is not normal today and all of our 676 00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:42,960 conferences that we were getting ready 677 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:44,819 to do which of course contact in the 678 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,970 desert and Manchester the awakening 679 00:35:51,739 --> 00:35:50,400 conference over in the United Kingdom 680 00:35:56,029 --> 00:35:51,749 and everything else everything is 681 00:35:58,789 --> 00:35:56,039 canceled you are the lucky draw this 682 00:36:01,970 --> 00:35:58,799 year you know what do you make about 683 00:36:04,489 --> 00:36:01,980 that in that it's in late November but 684 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:04,499 by that time you're gonna be the only 685 00:36:11,529 --> 00:36:07,890 the only game in town and it could be 686 00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:11,539 just the greatest event ever for you 687 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:14,609 well you were hoping because our 688 00:36:18,589 --> 00:36:16,410 conference is very very different and 689 00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:18,599 actually it's in the beginning of 690 00:36:23,809 --> 00:36:20,190 November so it's the end of October 691 00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:23,819 before the winter comes the winter may 692 00:36:28,609 --> 00:36:26,190 be already in Colorado but by the time 693 00:36:30,859 --> 00:36:28,619 you get to Lofton we have palm trees the 694 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:30,869 Colorado River and its really the 695 00:36:35,989 --> 00:36:33,839 weather is gorgeous so we've been doing 696 00:36:38,839 --> 00:36:35,999 this now for seven years so the people 697 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:38,849 that come really loved it's a vacation 698 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:40,890 for them they walk along the Colorado 699 00:36:46,579 --> 00:36:43,710 River there's palm trees you know it's 700 00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:46,589 Laughlin is a very interesting City and 701 00:36:52,759 --> 00:36:50,460 I've been doing it for the seven years I 702 00:36:56,329 --> 00:36:52,769 have all my equipment stored there and 703 00:36:59,660 --> 00:36:56,339 we do a very professional job at the 704 00:37:01,160 --> 00:36:59,670 Clarion Casino Resort which you know the 705 00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:01,170 reason why I do it everybody says well 706 00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:02,430 aren't you go somewhere else 707 00:37:07,489 --> 00:37:04,920 why don't you do in Colorado if because 708 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:07,499 the rooms are $49 a night during the 709 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:11,040 week and 79 and the weekend 710 00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:12,990 what I want to have happen is that this 711 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,480 conference is affordable for the people 712 00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:17,280 I mean sometimes when you go to other 713 00:37:25,070 --> 00:37:21,540 conferences just the hotel alone is so 714 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:25,080 darned expensive right so you know it's 715 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:27,810 a beautiful time it's in November the 716 00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:30,570 beginning of course Jimmy there's the 717 00:37:36,140 --> 00:37:33,060 elections there and I've got horror 718 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:36,150 stories of us lying in the day after the 719 00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:37,890 election and all kinds of stuff 720 00:37:41,050 --> 00:37:39,480 happening and it's gonna happen this 721 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:41,060 year too 722 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:43,110 unfortunately the elections are right 723 00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,260 there that you know that week and but 724 00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:48,240 it'll be exciting we'll see we'll see 725 00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,380 what happens 726 00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:51,920 and of course we're non-political but 727 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:55,590 it's just an exciting time yes we may be 728 00:38:00,320 --> 00:37:58,290 the only conference still going but 729 00:38:03,020 --> 00:38:00,330 we've already got a plan B and that is 730 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:03,030 that we are going to livestream it so if 731 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:06,690 people can't physically be there I have 732 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:10,800 a crew of seven technicians that are 733 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:13,680 from Minneapolis they're from public 734 00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:15,690 television they're so professional and 735 00:38:22,070 --> 00:38:18,260 they're getting ready to do a very very 736 00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,080 sophisticated livestream so people can 737 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:24,960 attend to you know virtually which is 738 00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,970 what's happening with everything whether 739 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:28,880 you're going to school going to college 740 00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:31,920 see that we're going into a whole other 741 00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:35,040 world right now this tragedy is making 742 00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:39,200 us go into a whole other virtual world 743 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:42,030 where we have to do things then we have 744 00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:44,370 to adapt well there you know and the 745 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:46,920 other part is we're all going a little 746 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:52,890 stir-crazy Wright and McGill out to play 747 00:38:59,570 --> 00:38:55,290 and we're gonna come out to play la 748 00:39:01,700 --> 00:38:59,580 flood after being sheltered in place for 749 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:01,710 so long it's going to be a really really 750 00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:05,250 good time I'm looking forward to it well 751 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:06,720 I'm looking forward to having you there 752 00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:09,570 we're planning to have you do a few 753 00:39:16,450 --> 00:39:12,300 things for us that are really really you 754 00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:16,460 know really enhance for conference and 755 00:39:20,510 --> 00:39:18,420 interact with the audience because 756 00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:20,520 you're so personable of my audience will 757 00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:22,580 love you and and also you 758 00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:24,470 you'll meet some foreign people that 759 00:39:29,890 --> 00:39:26,860 were asking to come over you know I have 760 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:29,900 vitaly sakura from london whom you've 761 00:39:37,630 --> 00:39:35,570 met he's zohar TV and i have rock star 762 00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:37,640 from paris who's written six books on 763 00:39:40,810 --> 00:39:38,540 ufos 764 00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:40,820 he's like david bowie's name is egg on 765 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:44,110 kragle and i have a feast of paws wells 766 00:39:50,830 --> 00:39:47,570 from Peru Lima Peru who gave us a 767 00:39:53,110 --> 00:39:50,840 wonderful message by the way I just 768 00:39:55,390 --> 00:39:53,120 started a patreon channel and I just 769 00:39:59,740 --> 00:39:55,400 interviewed six so because he's getting 770 00:40:03,460 --> 00:39:59,750 messages the group from Peru in the in 771 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:03,470 the 70s met with human type space people 772 00:40:08,350 --> 00:40:06,050 and they've been in constant contact and 773 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:08,360 then Heine Mouse on has the most 774 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,090 incredible UFO videos on the planet and 775 00:40:17,020 --> 00:40:13,760 every year he comes and people have just 776 00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:17,030 blown away by the videos and you're 777 00:40:22,810 --> 00:40:19,940 usually from Russia or the Ukraine or 778 00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:22,820 Syria or you know across the ocean and 779 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:27,350 people do this I love because we are not 780 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:30,970 the United States is not the only UFO 781 00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:35,090 hotspot nor is it the only authority on 782 00:40:41,290 --> 00:40:38,720 UFOs so when people see all of the 783 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:41,300 stimulation from all over the world and 784 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:43,970 it's expensive to do it and in the case 785 00:40:49,210 --> 00:40:46,270 of feasto I have to get an interpreter 786 00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:49,220 you know I think God Egon craig'll 787 00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:51,500 speaks English and you know he's French 788 00:40:57,610 --> 00:40:54,110 but what happens is these people get 789 00:41:00,040 --> 00:40:57,620 exposed to what's happening over the all 790 00:41:01,690 --> 00:41:00,050 over the planet where you know sometimes 791 00:41:04,450 --> 00:41:01,700 like your friends next door might say 792 00:41:08,370 --> 00:41:04,460 well there's no UFO activity anymore 793 00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:08,380 well really that's exactly right and 794 00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:11,140 connect I want to go back for a second 795 00:41:18,250 --> 00:41:15,710 and talk about Sixto because you posted 796 00:41:20,050 --> 00:41:18,260 it up on social media I didn't get a 797 00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:20,060 chance to check it out yet we'll get 798 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:21,260 there we'll put up the links here in 799 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:26,810 Twitter what was the message that he was 800 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:31,040 given well he said the message that he 801 00:41:34,740 --> 00:41:33,010 was given was and he'd they believed in 802 00:41:37,170 --> 00:41:34,750 26,000 I 803 00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:37,180 year cycles that we're on that cycle 804 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:39,670 right now and the planet needs to 805 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:43,690 recalibrate and and it isn't that the 806 00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:46,930 planet recalibrated by itself it is the 807 00:41:51,540 --> 00:41:48,820 higher consciousness of the planet the 808 00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:51,550 once things to change and that this is a 809 00:41:59,220 --> 00:41:55,030 very positive time and it's a time to go 810 00:42:01,860 --> 00:41:59,230 inward and he said that fear is should 811 00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:01,870 not be a part of this because fear 812 00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:04,120 lowers your consciousness but it also 813 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:07,180 lowers your immune system you know it 814 00:42:14,070 --> 00:42:10,390 lowers your health it lay and the being 815 00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:14,080 said this is the time to go inward not 816 00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:16,390 to be outward and be distracted by 817 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:18,910 things outwardly but this is the time to 818 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:22,090 go inward in other words in our you know 819 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:25,690 to put it simply this is the time to 820 00:42:34,110 --> 00:42:29,110 change things this is the time to notice 821 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:34,120 how you react this is the time for Hire 822 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:37,570 to switch to a higher consciousness and 823 00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:40,090 and we caused it it is not caused from 824 00:42:45,060 --> 00:42:42,910 the outside it's just I'm getting you 825 00:42:46,890 --> 00:42:45,070 know I really sad that every time we 826 00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:46,900 have tragedies that's when we all come 827 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:48,400 together I wish you could do it another 828 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:52,480 way but they are very aware of it it 829 00:42:59,850 --> 00:42:55,290 needed to be done it's for them it's 830 00:43:02,130 --> 00:42:59,860 26,000 year cycle this is the the cycle 831 00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:02,140 and it's perfectly normal they're very 832 00:43:09,810 --> 00:43:05,350 well aware of it they're observers now 833 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:09,820 the the statements that I made opening 834 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:14,530 up the show tonight about how we have 835 00:43:19,590 --> 00:43:17,890 gone through and you have certainly seen 836 00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:19,600 every element of this you've been 837 00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:23,470 researching for so long we have gone 838 00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:28,120 through every question about who et may 839 00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:32,260 be and how they are getting here forever 840 00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:35,500 the original UFO questioning hypothesis 841 00:43:41,339 --> 00:43:39,310 and you know from flying saucers and and 842 00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:41,349 little green men 843 00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:45,799 1940's of 50s and the b-movies to today 844 00:43:52,450 --> 00:43:49,190 where we are trying to get these answers 845 00:43:53,890 --> 00:43:52,460 and it has certainly changed a lot over 846 00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:53,900 the years 847 00:44:01,450 --> 00:43:57,920 did you follow things like Frank Herbert 848 00:44:04,779 --> 00:44:01,460 and Doon and folding space Yeah right 849 00:44:06,729 --> 00:44:04,789 and oh my god yes I mean I was teaching 850 00:44:10,359 --> 00:44:06,739 science fiction of a master's in 851 00:44:13,569 --> 00:44:10,369 education educator that's why I like to 852 00:44:18,609 --> 00:44:13,579 do a laughlin as a seminar yes I mean 853 00:44:21,279 --> 00:44:18,619 Doon yeah there's so much hg wells 854 00:44:24,130 --> 00:44:21,289 Robert Heinlein and of course my 855 00:44:27,339 --> 00:44:24,140 favorite is Philip dick you know Blade 856 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:27,349 Runner I mean as marketing malade 857 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:29,930 brothers my very favorite movie but he 858 00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:33,410 did so much Minority Report where he has 859 00:44:36,969 --> 00:44:34,400 those psychics 860 00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:36,979 you know seeing the future but can I say 861 00:44:42,339 --> 00:44:40,190 something Jimmy it is that little more 862 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:42,349 like blue green man at the beginning of 863 00:44:47,950 --> 00:44:45,440 the UFO movement was the giant rock 864 00:44:50,709 --> 00:44:47,960 group and you should do contact me Jesus 865 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:50,719 you know so what was happening in the 866 00:44:55,749 --> 00:44:52,729 beginning was the spaceman were coming 867 00:44:57,339 --> 00:44:55,759 to this planet the physical spaceman 868 00:45:00,489 --> 00:44:57,349 they were coming off the planes and you 869 00:45:03,130 --> 00:45:00,499 know that the story of Van Tassel Amanda 870 00:45:06,009 --> 00:45:03,140 and Van Tassel's not lying I mean he 871 00:45:08,219 --> 00:45:06,019 worked for I think it was Lockheed 872 00:45:11,709 --> 00:45:08,229 Martin and one of those people work 873 00:45:13,749 --> 00:45:11,719 Angelou she worked there too or fail and 874 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:13,759 gallucci they worked for the top 875 00:45:21,370 --> 00:45:17,410 aerospace people at not aerospace 876 00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:21,380 technical people the you know the 877 00:45:29,499 --> 00:45:26,630 airplane people yeah and when when if 878 00:45:31,870 --> 00:45:29,509 Van Tassel was seeing a man walk in and 879 00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:31,880 the and I talked to them where I did all 880 00:45:37,209 --> 00:45:34,400 the research so I had to go back there 881 00:45:39,819 --> 00:45:37,219 and I talked to Van Tassel's nephew I 882 00:45:42,489 --> 00:45:39,829 talked to their families because there's 883 00:45:44,769 --> 00:45:42,499 very few people left from the giant what 884 00:45:47,140 --> 00:45:44,779 we call the space brother movement so I 885 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:47,150 had to go backwards because we're so 886 00:45:52,749 --> 00:45:50,450 hell-bent on all this feel being 887 00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:52,759 abductions that a little gray aliens in 888 00:45:56,750 --> 00:45:53,430 that set 889 00:45:58,819 --> 00:45:56,760 that happened in the 60s after the Betty 890 00:46:01,730 --> 00:45:58,829 and Barney Hill case I mean before that 891 00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:01,740 there wasn't any of that people have to 892 00:46:06,980 --> 00:46:04,680 understand that it is cyclical that 893 00:46:10,190 --> 00:46:06,990 we're looking at cycles and when you get 894 00:46:12,620 --> 00:46:10,200 somebody I just was at when I was at 895 00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:12,630 conscious live Expo I went to desert 896 00:46:18,049 --> 00:46:15,780 center where a damn ski met with or 897 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:18,059 athon and there is a researcher that I'm 898 00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:19,849 bringing to the United States next year 899 00:46:25,970 --> 00:46:22,920 from Tokyo Japan he's French name 900 00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:25,980 Michels urger that did all kinds of 901 00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,670 research on Adamski and has looked at 902 00:46:35,089 --> 00:46:31,440 the photos that handsome and there's a 903 00:46:38,359 --> 00:46:35,099 photo of ours on the actual or thon that 904 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:38,369 was taken and all kinds of photos 905 00:46:43,549 --> 00:46:40,890 because the Adamski was not alone he was 906 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:43,559 I think with five other people but this 907 00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:45,210 has to be done outside the country 908 00:46:48,770 --> 00:46:46,920 because you talk to our own people and 909 00:46:52,190 --> 00:46:48,780 they won't even listen to what a dead 910 00:46:54,140 --> 00:46:52,200 the damn skis story when when this or 911 00:46:57,049 --> 00:46:54,150 thawed puts his foot down and George 912 00:47:00,260 --> 00:46:57,059 Hutt Williamson makes two plaster casts 913 00:47:02,299 --> 00:47:00,270 of his shoes that's evidence you know 914 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:02,309 and people are not and the shoes have 915 00:47:09,049 --> 00:47:04,650 you know these symbols on them and then 916 00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:09,059 they go to castle leslie i met with when 917 00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:11,280 I was with Colonel Corso in Italy I met 918 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:13,470 Desmond Leslie I talked to him at length 919 00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:16,770 about the identity story it is very real 920 00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:19,049 but the what I want to talk to your 921 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:21,660 listeners about this Jimmy is because 922 00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:24,089 that was another cycle a damn skis 923 00:47:29,539 --> 00:47:26,190 message and I've listened to everything 924 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:29,549 all the tapes was this that in when 925 00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:32,730 Kennedy was president we had a chance to 926 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:36,480 switch from a war economy to a space 927 00:47:42,980 --> 00:47:39,690 economy and we could have made just as 928 00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:42,990 much money going out into outer space 929 00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:45,420 and and putting the money into a space 930 00:47:51,049 --> 00:47:48,089 economy and you know we would have had 931 00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:51,059 heavy space travel probably could have 932 00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:54,030 met the people out there right but we 933 00:47:59,240 --> 00:47:56,040 chose a war economy and you want to 934 00:48:02,120 --> 00:47:59,250 count the wars after after the 60s how 935 00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:02,130 many of them because war makes money so 936 00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:05,460 this planet lives on war reconstruction 937 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:06,400 war 938 00:48:11,279 --> 00:48:08,410 reconstruction I think when you run out 939 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:11,289 of an enemy as Verner von Braun said 940 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:13,930 there's the alien card but there's also 941 00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:17,970 another card that where nobody nobody 942 00:48:24,839 --> 00:48:20,440 absolutely looked at Medes the virus 943 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:24,849 card so you know it's going to change 944 00:48:32,789 --> 00:48:28,089 the way that the world is going to be 945 00:48:34,859 --> 00:48:32,799 organized and so in the time of demske 946 00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:34,869 he went to all the heads of state 947 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:38,049 including the Queen of Denmark he went 948 00:48:42,359 --> 00:48:40,210 to England to the royal family and told 949 00:48:43,859 --> 00:48:42,369 them look the ETS told me this do you 950 00:48:46,049 --> 00:48:43,869 want to change the economy it's much 951 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:46,059 better for this planet of course we 952 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:48,970 didn't and so people ought to go 953 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:51,910 backwards and see that who came here not 954 00:48:56,099 --> 00:48:54,490 not only the giant rock people in Italy 955 00:48:58,559 --> 00:48:56,109 we are geniuses cuza 956 00:49:01,289 --> 00:48:58,569 on the island of Sicily that met with 957 00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:01,299 what he calls the Venetians on these 958 00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:04,000 coasts we had Howard mentor and there's 959 00:49:09,269 --> 00:49:06,880 photos I have a photo of Howard mentor 960 00:49:12,089 --> 00:49:09,279 and his wife talk in the condom here in 961 00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:12,099 ear in Colorado during the condom 962 00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,400 committee report you know there was an 963 00:49:21,089 --> 00:49:17,440 effort by these contactees who met with 964 00:49:23,339 --> 00:49:21,099 these space people to change our order 965 00:49:26,010 --> 00:49:23,349 to change the order of the planet but 966 00:49:28,279 --> 00:49:26,020 then we come with the Betty and Barney 967 00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:28,289 Hill case and then everything becomes 968 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:31,150 abductions little gray aliens and then 969 00:49:35,299 --> 00:49:33,250 you know meeting Colonel Corso he told 970 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:35,309 me they were extraterrestrial biological 971 00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:37,510 entities in essence that they were 972 00:49:43,740 --> 00:49:40,270 clones and the whole entire field just 973 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:43,750 switched over to that and it's 974 00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:47,170 fear-based is very fair taste because 975 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:49,599 then everybody has their own ideas why 976 00:49:55,019 --> 00:49:52,450 they're here and then I have to go to 977 00:49:56,579 --> 00:49:55,029 South America to talk to the people and 978 00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,589 that's where I've been working for the 979 00:50:04,470 --> 00:49:58,480 last two years I've been working in 980 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:04,480 Chile in Argentina and in Peru to talk 981 00:50:08,670 --> 00:50:06,970 to the contactees Lexi stone that are 982 00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:08,680 that are meeting the space people the 983 00:50:12,089 --> 00:50:10,089 space people don't want to come here 984 00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:12,099 anymore I mean I don't think they want 985 00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:13,510 to come here because all we care about 986 00:50:17,730 --> 00:50:17,440 is the craft I went and listened and I 987 00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:17,740 am 988 00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:20,830 courage anybody and everybody to do this 989 00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:25,600 you can find online the complete George 990 00:50:31,350 --> 00:50:29,950 Van Tassel Rotary Club presentations 991 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:31,360 that he did all over Southern California 992 00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:34,810 and they're posted up online you can go 993 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:38,710 and hear what he had to say in 1952 in 994 00:50:48,210 --> 00:50:44,050 1953 to these packed rooms and when you 995 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:48,220 listen to George and that includes the 996 00:50:58,260 --> 00:50:51,130 the interviews he did up into the early 997 00:50:59,010 --> 00:50:58,270 1960s but go and listen to his how do I 998 00:51:02,480 --> 00:50:59,020 say this 999 00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:02,490 the word-for-word minute-by-minute 1000 00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:05,110 encounters that he had out there at 1001 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:07,990 giant rock what he saw what they spoke 1002 00:51:11,609 --> 00:51:09,970 about what happened on the ship what the 1003 00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:11,619 ship looked like on the inside 1004 00:51:21,390 --> 00:51:15,150 and when you hear this from 1952 and 1005 00:51:23,550 --> 00:51:21,400 1953 it sounds like he's in 2005 with 1006 00:51:25,590 --> 00:51:23,560 his description of the controls and the 1007 00:51:30,750 --> 00:51:25,600 interior of the ship and what it felt 1008 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:30,760 like when he took a ride and there is a 1009 00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:33,850 matter of fact 'no stooge or j-- fantast 1010 00:51:37,950 --> 00:51:36,280 that you don't get from just about 1011 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:37,960 anybody else out there 1012 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:42,130 paola it's it's fascinating to me and we 1013 00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:43,930 talk about George Van Tassel all the 1014 00:51:49,260 --> 00:51:45,910 time you can go and listen to him in his 1015 00:51:52,410 --> 00:51:49,270 own words while he's telling the truth 1016 00:51:54,510 --> 00:51:52,420 and even more so the people in those 1017 00:51:57,570 --> 00:51:54,520 days this was an interesting place in 1018 00:51:59,220 --> 00:51:57,580 history when I do my research I look at 1019 00:52:02,220 --> 00:51:59,230 what's happening it's the time of the 1020 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:02,230 New Age it's the Maharishi the new you 1021 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:05,410 know the yielded and times and 1022 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:07,570 everything and I think that the the 1023 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:09,490 space brothers if that's what you want 1024 00:52:14,490 --> 00:52:11,530 to call them we're hoping that we would 1025 00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:14,500 switch over into a more spiritual kind 1026 00:52:17,460 --> 00:52:16,000 of of course everything becomes 1027 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:17,470 commercialized so there's where that 1028 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:20,410 went but then you know that you know the 1029 00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:24,010 integratron that Howard Hughes helped 1030 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:25,990 build a atever China what that was 1031 00:52:29,550 --> 00:52:28,690 supposed to be was the time machine plus 1032 00:52:32,910 --> 00:52:29,560 a region 1033 00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:32,920 duration like a regeneration you know 1034 00:52:38,670 --> 00:52:35,680 chamber for yourself because I've done 1035 00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:38,680 so many studies on these human type 1036 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:40,540 aliens and they're saying we should be 1037 00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:42,850 living longer even with the Howard 1038 00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:45,000 mentor situation 1039 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:47,920 Howard manager was giving lectures in 1040 00:52:52,650 --> 00:52:50,050 his backyard in New Jersey none of my 1041 00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:52,660 colleagues have done any work in hybrids 1042 00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:54,520 new jury that's my dream to go back 1043 00:52:58,410 --> 00:52:56,680 there because those craft used to let 1044 00:53:01,050 --> 00:52:58,420 and they said they were from Venus too 1045 00:53:02,910 --> 00:53:01,060 so people go oh that's not possible 1046 00:53:05,550 --> 00:53:02,920 well they couldn't say they're from 1047 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:05,560 anywhere they want right that we could 1048 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:07,570 recognize they don't have to tell you 1049 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:09,370 where they're from wherever they're from 1050 00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:12,370 we wouldn't know anyway because we don't 1051 00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:15,310 call planets the same things they call 1052 00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:19,120 the planets so I have these photos and 1053 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:21,550 this testimony that came from the 1054 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:26,050 wendell stevens archive of the famous 1055 00:53:31,170 --> 00:53:29,290 photographer Auggie Roberts talking to 1056 00:53:33,630 --> 00:53:31,180 wendell stevens about three characters 1057 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:33,640 that are sitting in maegor's backyard in 1058 00:53:40,170 --> 00:53:37,000 the orchard and they're valve for his if 1059 00:53:43,290 --> 00:53:40,180 you know jill and his brother Don and 1060 00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:43,300 and they're in color and this is the 1061 00:53:48,210 --> 00:53:45,820 photographer who was told by manager 1062 00:53:51,330 --> 00:53:48,220 that these three people that were going 1063 00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:51,340 to be there that are overdressed in the 1064 00:53:55,350 --> 00:53:53,140 orchard because everybody else is very 1065 00:53:58,890 --> 00:53:55,360 casual in shorts and these guys have 1066 00:54:02,100 --> 00:53:58,900 suit on you know we're going to be there 1067 00:54:04,290 --> 00:54:02,110 but manager told the photographer he 1068 00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:04,300 said I can't tell you who they are he 1069 00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:05,680 says but they're going to be there 1070 00:54:09,810 --> 00:54:07,510 listening to my lecture and those are 1071 00:54:13,410 --> 00:54:09,820 the famous photos that go and people 1072 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:13,420 should be listening because that that is 1073 00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:16,930 proof I got the tape of the the actual 1074 00:54:21,150 --> 00:54:19,300 photographer talking to Wendell about 1075 00:54:24,210 --> 00:54:21,160 has taken the pictures there's about a 1076 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:24,220 hundred pictures of that encounter so 1077 00:54:29,790 --> 00:54:27,610 did some of these human type beings come 1078 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:29,800 to talk to the powers of the Beatles 1079 00:54:35,460 --> 00:54:32,530 supposedly and they certainly live more 1080 00:54:38,220 --> 00:54:35,470 than a hundred years so and we you know 1081 00:54:40,770 --> 00:54:38,230 we've got a heavy pharma and I think 1082 00:54:42,670 --> 00:54:40,780 that one of the stories is of Al Thor 1083 00:54:45,310 --> 00:54:42,680 went to the president said 1084 00:54:48,130 --> 00:54:45,320 I'll give you some clues one of them was 1085 00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:48,140 to keep your blood alkaline how you guys 1086 00:54:53,710 --> 00:54:50,960 could anchor and I think the answer was 1087 00:54:58,170 --> 00:54:53,720 there's a heavy industry here that you 1088 00:55:01,480 --> 00:54:58,180 know is keeping going because of people 1089 00:55:05,380 --> 00:55:01,490 you know being ill so we have to look at 1090 00:55:11,170 --> 00:55:05,390 the way the planet is is the way the 1091 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:11,180 planet is you know made to to go ahead 1092 00:55:16,510 --> 00:55:14,210 in other words who is ruling this where 1093 00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:16,520 this comes from who are you know where 1094 00:55:24,940 --> 00:55:21,110 where our money people come from where 1095 00:55:27,370 --> 00:55:24,950 our Pharma comes from and you know it's 1096 00:55:30,460 --> 00:55:27,380 it's very complicated but I think that 1097 00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:30,470 these people who are advanced by the way 1098 00:55:36,180 --> 00:55:33,920 I want to go public and say I don't 1099 00:55:38,410 --> 00:55:36,190 believe the UFO phenomenon is 1100 00:55:42,010 --> 00:55:38,420 interdimensional travelers only I 1101 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:42,020 espouse more to Jacque malays theory and 1102 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:44,690 that is that it's interdimensional that 1103 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:46,130 some of these people some of these 1104 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:48,610 beings some of this phenomenon is 1105 00:55:53,650 --> 00:55:51,050 interdimensional also it's not just 1106 00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:53,660 travelers from other I think it's all 1107 00:55:58,030 --> 00:55:55,730 the above I think it's all of it some of 1108 00:55:59,890 --> 00:55:58,040 it is travelers some of it they've been 1109 00:56:03,070 --> 00:55:59,900 here forever somebody 1110 00:56:07,210 --> 00:56:03,080 Evette is ancient aliens some of it is 1111 00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:07,220 you know spirits and beings I think it's 1112 00:56:13,690 --> 00:56:10,310 all of it Jimmy I agree with you and the 1113 00:56:16,180 --> 00:56:13,700 reason why I agree with you is because 1114 00:56:18,910 --> 00:56:16,190 it's a numbers game it's really that 1115 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:18,920 simple it's a numbers game if we have 20 1116 00:56:26,170 --> 00:56:22,610 billion earth-like planets in the Milky 1117 00:56:29,170 --> 00:56:26,180 Way in the Goldilocks zone with water 1118 00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:29,180 rocky and can support life then it's a 1119 00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:32,680 numbers game where we are dealing with 1120 00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:36,910 not an infinite amount of civilizations 1121 00:56:42,250 --> 00:56:40,730 but a darn big number right and they all 1122 00:56:43,810 --> 00:56:42,260 have their different approaches they 1123 00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:43,820 have their own different technologies 1124 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:46,070 they have their different types of ships 1125 00:56:51,460 --> 00:56:49,130 and crafts they look different just like 1126 00:56:54,070 --> 00:56:51,470 you and I look different 1127 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:54,080 and they know about earth and and 1128 00:56:57,339 --> 00:56:55,730 they've been hanging out here and 1129 00:57:01,720 --> 00:56:57,349 checking us out for a very long time 1130 00:57:05,890 --> 00:57:01,730 it's not one civilization it's probably 1131 00:57:08,530 --> 00:57:05,900 Paul it's probably thousands thousands 1132 00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:08,540 and and some have only visited once 1133 00:57:16,570 --> 00:57:12,230 right what he don't like with going back 1134 00:57:18,370 --> 00:57:16,580 to Georgia you have an intelligent way 1135 00:57:20,380 --> 00:57:18,380 of looking at it you know what we've 1136 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:20,390 done in the UFO field and that's why I 1137 00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:22,250 don't work in the United States anymore 1138 00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:24,820 is we shoved them into reptilians 1139 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:28,310 Nordics and grace is that crazy or is 1140 00:57:36,490 --> 00:57:33,890 that nuts I asked Clifford stone who you 1141 00:57:40,930 --> 00:57:36,500 know this book I published and did crash 1142 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:40,940 retrieval and he met some racism in 1143 00:57:46,180 --> 00:57:43,730 Vietnam that well he said frog like that 1144 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:46,190 had gills and I said but Clifford you 1145 00:57:51,220 --> 00:57:48,890 said there's 57 different varieties and 1146 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:51,230 he said Paula the manual they gave us 1147 00:57:56,380 --> 00:57:54,650 for first aid at 57 different races so 1148 00:57:59,079 --> 00:57:56,390 what in the world are we doing shoving 1149 00:58:02,109 --> 00:57:59,089 them into reptilians Nordics and greens 1150 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:02,119 it's so ignorant it's an incredible and 1151 00:58:06,359 --> 00:58:03,890 then you know if you want me to at a 1152 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:06,369 certain point I'll talk about my trip to 1153 00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:09,410 Peru where I went to a mountain that was 1154 00:58:14,050 --> 00:58:11,990 a base where the beings which were 1155 00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:14,060 human-like and I think they're still 1156 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:16,609 there came to warm warn the authorities 1157 00:58:23,740 --> 00:58:20,210 that was-- quran was going to have in 1158 00:58:26,829 --> 00:58:23,750 encash was going to have a earthquake to 1159 00:58:28,420 --> 00:58:26,839 move the people and they were spacemen 1160 00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:28,430 they looked up to 1161 00:58:34,570 --> 00:58:31,849 Vlado kapitonovich who was a hydraulic 1162 00:58:37,210 --> 00:58:34,580 engineer said move the people you're 1163 00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,220 gonna have an earthquake and about you 1164 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:39,920 know a month and they didn't and 45,000 1165 00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:42,890 people died and I'm walking over the 1166 00:58:48,430 --> 00:58:44,990 graves of all these people and this 1167 00:58:50,980 --> 00:58:48,440 happened last year so have they come to 1168 00:58:52,839 --> 00:58:50,990 tell us that we're having earth changes 1169 00:58:56,770 --> 00:58:52,849 to move the people yes it happened in 1170 00:59:00,970 --> 00:58:56,780 our cache and Peru so I you know I had 1171 00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,980 to do extensive field research Jimmy to 1172 00:59:04,270 --> 00:59:02,720 get the truth because I've I sit around 1173 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:04,280 and watch Internet 1174 00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:08,090 it is like a joke it's a circus it's a 1175 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:10,840 fun circus sometimes though let's take 1176 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:12,770 take a break right here 1177 00:59:18,910 --> 00:59:15,530 my guest tonight Paola Harris and we're 1178 00:59:20,110 --> 00:59:18,920 gonna do all UFOs all day long we're 1179 00:59:21,490 --> 00:59:20,120 gonna take a quick break we're gonna 1180 00:59:23,260 --> 00:59:21,500 pick up where we leave it off right now 1181 00:59:26,140 --> 00:59:23,270 this is fade to black I'm Yours Jimmy 1182 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:26,150 Church on the game changer Network and K 1183 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:29,090 GRA the planet stay with us we'll be 1184 00:59:31,890 --> 00:59:52,880 [Music] 1185 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:54,750 this is fade to black 1186 01:00:00,540 --> 00:59:56,890 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1187 01:00:02,359 --> 01:00:00,550 radio network and K GRA the global radio 1188 01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:02,369 alliance 1189 01:00:06,450 --> 01:00:05,680 this is kera 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01:04:45,499 [Music] 1289 01:04:51,339 --> 01:04:47,999 welcome back fade to black I'm hosting 1290 01:04:53,870 --> 01:04:51,349 my church tonight our guest Paula Harris 1291 01:04:59,420 --> 01:04:53,880 very excited about the conversation 1292 01:05:03,410 --> 01:04:59,430 tonight we're gonna talk you about my 1293 01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:03,420 favorite subject all night long and I 1294 01:05:09,739 --> 01:05:06,720 wanted to ask you this and I know that 1295 01:05:14,779 --> 01:05:09,749 you thought about this but if we back up 1296 01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:14,789 i I've changed my view on things a 1297 01:05:22,219 --> 01:05:19,200 little bit Paula in that two years ago 1298 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:22,229 when the New York Times and the media 1299 01:05:26,539 --> 01:05:24,450 and everything was talking disclosure 1300 01:05:28,910 --> 01:05:26,549 and the Pentagon and secret programs 1301 01:05:31,099 --> 01:05:28,920 meua foes and it was all over the media 1302 01:05:33,769 --> 01:05:31,109 and interviews and and everything that 1303 01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:33,779 went down the world didn't freak out and 1304 01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:36,420 I thought to myself back then see we 1305 01:05:43,309 --> 01:05:39,720 could handle the news we can handle this 1306 01:05:46,849 --> 01:05:43,319 and and I felt really good about it and 1307 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:46,859 then this thing happened called 1308 01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:48,450 coronavirus I don't want to talk about 1309 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:53,369 coronavirus tonight but the world shut 1310 01:06:00,890 --> 01:05:57,210 down and now I'm wondering could we have 1311 01:06:03,890 --> 01:06:00,900 actually handled real true disclosure 1312 01:06:06,049 --> 01:06:03,900 would we have freaked out could the 1313 01:06:08,089 --> 01:06:06,059 world have handled it and and what's 1314 01:06:10,249 --> 01:06:08,099 your take on that do you think that we 1315 01:06:15,170 --> 01:06:10,259 could have actually handled the really 1316 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:15,180 really big news yeah I think so but you 1317 01:06:19,999 --> 01:06:17,130 ought to define what you think real 1318 01:06:21,529 --> 01:06:20,009 disclosure is are you talking about The 1319 01:06:28,609 --> 01:06:21,539 Day the Earth Stood Still where the guy 1320 01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:28,619 comes what did you find it at that's 1321 01:06:37,219 --> 01:06:30,569 what I'm talking about like Mars Attacks 1322 01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:37,229 right in my research and I'm sharing 1323 01:06:42,620 --> 01:06:39,599 that on my patreon channel I've done so 1324 01:06:44,989 --> 01:06:42,630 much I realized that we really had a lot 1325 01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:44,999 of activity right after we exploded the 1326 01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:48,329 atomic bomb in 1945 all in the New 1327 01:06:56,420 --> 01:06:52,799 Mexico area and we had all kinds of 1328 01:06:58,700 --> 01:06:56,430 activity because it was a message we had 1329 01:07:01,579 --> 01:06:58,710 gone into the nuclear age 1330 01:07:05,030 --> 01:07:01,589 like the kids discovered the matches and 1331 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:05,040 you know and it's not an irony that it 1332 01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:07,770 you know Roswell is where the final 9th 1333 01:07:14,060 --> 01:07:10,710 Bomb Squadron is it's not an accident 1334 01:07:16,550 --> 01:07:14,070 that there's UFOs over Chernobyl it's 1335 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:16,560 not an accident you know where they're 1336 01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:19,650 located where they're watching you know 1337 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:23,310 our progression so could could they 1338 01:07:26,930 --> 01:07:25,650 handle a spaceman coming off they would 1339 01:07:28,730 --> 01:07:26,940 have thought it was Hollywood I think 1340 01:07:33,050 --> 01:07:28,740 they would think what Spielberg doing 1341 01:07:36,140 --> 01:07:33,060 something I think I don't think ETS 1342 01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:36,150 would ever do it that way anyway it was 1343 01:07:46,820 --> 01:07:41,609 like III don't think the there's there's 1344 01:07:54,260 --> 01:07:46,830 one classic childhoods end I don't know 1345 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:54,270 did you read that that's scary I mean 1346 01:08:00,620 --> 01:07:57,210 you know basically a UFO goes over every 1347 01:08:04,070 --> 01:08:00,630 major airport and makes it dark dark in 1348 01:08:06,859 --> 01:08:04,080 the Sun every major airport and they're 1349 01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:06,869 they're called the overlords and then 1350 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:09,599 they say you guys had your chance so 1351 01:08:16,490 --> 01:08:11,570 we're gonna take the kids off the planet 1352 01:08:19,610 --> 01:08:16,500 you know amazing story I mean I heard 1353 01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:19,620 William Shatner do that here you know 1354 01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:22,799 recite that here at Red Rocks if they 1355 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:24,960 ever did that that would be that would 1356 01:08:28,849 --> 01:08:27,690 be interpreted as an alien invasion and 1357 01:08:32,510 --> 01:08:28,859 I think if they were going to do 1358 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:32,520 anything they would have done in 45 so I 1359 01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,410 don't think that we're going to have 1360 01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:36,960 that kind of disclosure I think the New 1361 01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:42,000 York Times article you know people are 1362 01:08:45,890 --> 01:08:43,440 going we knew it all along 1363 01:08:48,620 --> 01:08:45,900 oh yeah we knew it all along you know 1364 01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:48,630 that my kids is really funny Jimmy 1365 01:08:51,410 --> 01:08:49,980 because my kids they don't believe 1366 01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,420 anything I do they don't believe 1367 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:53,520 anything I say but when New York Times 1368 01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:55,290 came out they all they call me right 1369 01:09:01,340 --> 01:08:58,799 away mom New York Times said there's 1370 01:09:02,780 --> 01:09:01,350 real UFOs have been good what do you 1371 01:09:05,420 --> 01:09:02,790 think I've been doing for the last 30 1372 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:05,430 years you're a good Allen Hynek Project 1373 01:09:10,410 --> 01:09:06,170 Blue Book 1374 01:09:13,380 --> 01:09:10,420 it seemed funny well and 1375 01:09:18,030 --> 01:09:13,390 and so you don't think that things have 1376 01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:18,040 changed I I don't know if we can handle 1377 01:09:24,329 --> 01:09:20,699 the news the one thing that I am very 1378 01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:24,339 thankful for is well I'm thankful for a 1379 01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:26,739 lot of things right now but it seems 1380 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:29,830 like the world is a kind ler gentler 1381 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:32,650 place today than it was just a short 30 1382 01:09:37,650 --> 01:09:35,770 days ago and everything just got put 1383 01:09:40,380 --> 01:09:37,660 into perspective really really quickly 1384 01:09:44,370 --> 01:09:40,390 for us a very appreciative of that and 1385 01:09:47,070 --> 01:09:44,380 when we get back out side and out in 1386 01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:47,080 front of what is happening right now 1387 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:49,359 that we're going to treat everybody 1388 01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:51,250 differently and we're gonna look at it 1389 01:09:56,430 --> 01:09:54,310 and judge ourselves differently than we 1390 01:09:58,140 --> 01:09:56,440 ever have in the past and I think that's 1391 01:09:59,060 --> 01:09:58,150 something we can look forward to don't 1392 01:10:06,810 --> 01:09:59,070 you 1393 01:10:08,850 --> 01:10:06,820 was very profound in that that's what's 1394 01:10:10,890 --> 01:10:08,860 really happening and I wish John Lennon 1395 01:10:12,180 --> 01:10:10,900 were here to see it 1396 01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:12,190 you know because that's what he wanted 1397 01:10:20,370 --> 01:10:16,000 you know even even George Harrison you 1398 01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:20,380 know come together those the the Beatle 1399 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:22,150 music I mean they had they were 1400 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:26,290 visionaries you know imagine my goodness 1401 01:10:32,250 --> 01:10:28,210 gracious I wish they were here to see 1402 01:10:36,209 --> 01:10:32,260 this it they wrote songs about it before 1403 01:10:40,410 --> 01:10:36,219 it even happened and and yes you know 1404 01:10:44,189 --> 01:10:40,420 it's it's very difficult to see the 1405 01:10:46,350 --> 01:10:44,199 other side of it but what's happened is 1406 01:10:48,450 --> 01:10:46,360 it's brought the world together it just 1407 01:10:50,970 --> 01:10:48,460 hasn't brought America together it's 1408 01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:50,980 brought us together as a human species 1409 01:10:56,130 --> 01:10:53,980 and I think that whatever cosmic 1410 01:10:58,919 --> 01:10:56,140 cultures are out there they're watching 1411 01:11:00,570 --> 01:10:58,929 us come together as species anyway 1412 01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:00,580 because if there was disclosure I mean 1413 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:02,110 where would you want it to happen in 1414 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:05,650 Washington in China in Russia I think 1415 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:08,410 that what they wanted us to do is is 1416 01:11:13,979 --> 01:11:11,290 admit we were all you know human and and 1417 01:11:16,290 --> 01:11:13,989 I really believe that any kind of 1418 01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:16,300 disclosure anymore is coming from the 1419 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:18,910 bottom up not from the top down you go 1420 01:11:22,590 --> 01:11:21,250 to Latin America and there's all kinds 1421 01:11:25,660 --> 01:11:22,600 of Oh 1422 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:25,670 contact happening on a normal basis and 1423 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:28,130 they don't think any big deal of it 1424 01:11:36,250 --> 01:11:32,810 there's another part to this to that the 1425 01:11:40,510 --> 01:11:36,260 message going all the way back to the 1426 01:11:43,330 --> 01:11:40,520 early 1950s through to today is that the 1427 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:43,340 message from our ET brothers and sisters 1428 01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,530 was you know a very consistent 1429 01:11:51,070 --> 01:11:47,360 you guys got to clean up your house 1430 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:51,080 right you guys are ready God you've got 1431 01:11:57,940 --> 01:11:55,130 issues there and what is amazing is that 1432 01:12:00,700 --> 01:11:57,950 I can walk outside here in Los Angeles 1433 01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:00,710 which is covered with a blanket of smog 1434 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:04,310 and pollution and and smell clean air 1435 01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:07,730 and it's the same thing for India and in 1436 01:12:14,050 --> 01:12:10,880 China and certainly Central and South 1437 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:14,060 America Russia all over Europe where we 1438 01:12:18,940 --> 01:12:16,010 have clean air for the first time 1439 01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:18,950 probably since the Industrial Revolution 1440 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:22,880 can you imagine London which you know 1441 01:12:29,980 --> 01:12:26,330 just peluda fied is now breathing clean 1442 01:12:32,380 --> 01:12:29,990 air and we know that now that we can 1443 01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:32,390 turn this thing around in 30 days right 1444 01:12:38,410 --> 01:12:34,910 that we can actually clean up the air in 1445 01:12:41,980 --> 01:12:38,420 this planet quickly and I think that 1446 01:12:45,730 --> 01:12:41,990 Gaia this planet Mother Earth realizes 1447 01:12:48,940 --> 01:12:45,740 that and we know that it's actually 1448 01:12:51,190 --> 01:12:48,950 simpler it's not as difficult as we 1449 01:12:53,770 --> 01:12:51,200 thought it would be to clean up 1450 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:53,780 everything very quickly what's the 1451 01:13:00,130 --> 01:12:56,570 what's the air like he live in Colorado 1452 01:13:02,410 --> 01:13:00,140 so it's probably probably right 1453 01:13:06,220 --> 01:13:02,420 no we have clean air here I mean 1454 01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:06,230 Colorado ayah blue sky we have 300 out 1455 01:13:11,770 --> 01:13:08,950 of 360 days a year 1456 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:11,780 sunshine here no it's always like that 1457 01:13:17,230 --> 01:13:13,850 but you know I can hear what you're 1458 01:13:21,790 --> 01:13:17,240 saying I saw a picture of the Himalayas 1459 01:13:24,460 --> 01:13:21,800 all Himalaya outline that it was on 1460 01:13:26,620 --> 01:13:24,470 internet and it was amazing that that in 1461 01:13:29,470 --> 01:13:26,630 India you could see the whole Himalayas 1462 01:13:31,330 --> 01:13:29,480 and you're talking about ecology which 1463 01:13:33,790 --> 01:13:31,340 is one of the messages is coming out of 1464 01:13:35,919 --> 01:13:33,800 Latin America for your listeners 1465 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:35,929 they're worried about water the messages 1466 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:38,090 from the ETS or water conserve your 1467 01:13:43,149 --> 01:13:40,250 water make sure your water is pure and 1468 01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:43,159 and its ecology global warming but 1469 01:13:47,290 --> 01:13:44,630 there's something else that happened 1470 01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:47,300 last Saturday and I was caught up by 1471 01:13:51,819 --> 01:13:49,040 accident and that one of my friends 1472 01:13:54,250 --> 01:13:51,829 calls up and says are you doing that you 1473 01:13:56,379 --> 01:13:54,260 know the worldwide meditation that's 1474 01:13:58,839 --> 01:13:56,389 that they're doing for all over the 1475 01:13:59,979 --> 01:13:58,849 world you know are you doing that and I 1476 01:14:02,020 --> 01:13:59,989 said what was that about 1477 01:14:04,209 --> 01:14:02,030 and they they told me that they had 1478 01:14:08,290 --> 01:14:04,219 ranged all over the world at the same 1479 01:14:10,990 --> 01:14:08,300 time a worldwide meditation that and 1480 01:14:12,250 --> 01:14:11,000 then I look and this is the good part 1481 01:14:15,609 --> 01:14:12,260 about it this is the good part about 1482 01:14:17,950 --> 01:14:15,619 internet I see that human resonance has 1483 01:14:21,490 --> 01:14:17,960 changed for that time that everybody 1484 01:14:24,490 --> 01:14:21,500 came together in consciousness that did 1485 01:14:26,890 --> 01:14:24,500 the meditation I've gotten a call I 1486 01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:26,900 wouldn't have done it but you know it's 1487 01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:29,510 it's amazing that we have that kind of 1488 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:32,960 power mental power to be able to change 1489 01:14:37,899 --> 01:14:35,690 your reality and if we would be very 1490 01:14:40,379 --> 01:14:37,909 dangerous if everybody knew that because 1491 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:40,389 we could do all kinds of amazing things 1492 01:14:49,419 --> 01:14:44,690 yeah I've seen it everywhere here in 1493 01:14:54,459 --> 01:14:49,429 Southern California and I the reputation 1494 01:14:58,299 --> 01:14:54,469 of Los Angeles I get that and it's it's 1495 01:15:01,780 --> 01:14:58,309 warranted it's real but it's it's it's 1496 01:15:05,290 --> 01:15:01,790 changed today it's it's really really 1497 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:05,300 weird it is it's kind it's nice it's 1498 01:15:10,450 --> 01:15:07,489 gentle and it could have always been 1499 01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:10,460 this way it took this thing that we're 1500 01:15:16,899 --> 01:15:13,760 going through to initiate these changes 1501 01:15:20,049 --> 01:15:16,909 I just hope that us Angela as a 1502 01:15:22,540 --> 01:15:20,059 community doesn't get amnesia and that 1503 01:15:25,270 --> 01:15:22,550 we stay this way we realized we can 1504 01:15:29,979 --> 01:15:25,280 actually just live like this and enjoy 1505 01:15:33,220 --> 01:15:29,989 ourselves oh I think it'll it'll go on I 1506 01:15:35,890 --> 01:15:33,230 mean it's traumatic enough so it when we 1507 01:15:38,799 --> 01:15:35,900 go back to there is no normal when we go 1508 01:15:41,260 --> 01:15:38,809 back to the future back to the future 1509 01:15:44,290 --> 01:15:41,270 we're going to have another world you 1510 01:15:47,190 --> 01:15:44,300 know I worked with Colonel Philip Corso 1511 01:15:50,730 --> 01:15:47,200 and you know he told me about he 1512 01:15:53,370 --> 01:15:50,740 encounter in red canyon and on the 1513 01:15:55,650 --> 01:15:53,380 missile sands grounds and in Steven 1514 01:15:58,170 --> 01:15:55,660 Greer's wonderful movie and I hope we 1515 01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:58,180 get to talk about that the last words of 1516 01:16:02,040 --> 01:15:59,920 the movie is in the world if you can 1517 01:16:05,370 --> 01:16:02,050 take it and that is what the being told 1518 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:05,380 Colonel Corso he had to offer of course 1519 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:08,290 they would come aboard a ship and you 1520 01:16:12,150 --> 01:16:10,090 know it's really interesting because I 1521 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:12,160 couldn't figure what a new world could 1522 01:16:17,370 --> 01:16:14,290 be like you know I can't even imagine 1523 01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:17,380 this and in our day and age and I'm 1524 01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:20,320 looking at the new normal is going to be 1525 01:16:25,230 --> 01:16:22,480 a little bit different maybe a little 1526 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:25,240 bit kinder certainly a little bit more 1527 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:28,090 aware and I think with a lot more 1528 01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:32,130 consciousness of what we can create and 1529 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:37,360 if we go back to our old ways what I 1530 01:16:44,490 --> 01:16:40,330 mean is this the old ways is we have 1531 01:16:46,860 --> 01:16:44,500 amnesia we just do we forget and it 1532 01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:46,870 doesn't matter what it is it could be a 1533 01:16:52,410 --> 01:16:50,110 day to day life thing like maybe maybe 1534 01:16:54,900 --> 01:16:52,420 you're you run out of money and and 1535 01:16:56,250 --> 01:16:54,910 you're broke and you go man I'm never 1536 01:16:57,930 --> 01:16:56,260 going to do this again 1537 01:17:00,510 --> 01:16:57,940 I'm always gonna make sure I have a 1538 01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:00,520 little stash and then you go through the 1539 01:17:06,750 --> 01:17:03,280 panic time and then the next month 1540 01:17:10,350 --> 01:17:06,760 you're broke again because he partied or 1541 01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:10,360 whatever we just have that amnesia we 1542 01:17:16,050 --> 01:17:13,420 just do at procrastination and all of 1543 01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:16,060 our bad habits this time around we had 1544 01:17:22,650 --> 01:17:19,270 the shock treatment right we we we we 1545 01:17:27,330 --> 01:17:22,660 looked down at this directly will we 1546 01:17:30,230 --> 01:17:27,340 this time not have that amnesia and not 1547 01:17:33,870 --> 01:17:30,240 forget about the the first quarter of 1548 01:17:41,850 --> 01:17:33,880 2020 in in five years in a year what 1549 01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:41,860 about six months what do you think I I 1550 01:17:50,610 --> 01:17:46,450 think that this was a pretty grand 1551 01:17:53,940 --> 01:17:50,620 wake-up call that this time around right 1552 01:17:56,460 --> 01:17:53,950 that this time around we we are not 1553 01:17:58,490 --> 01:17:56,470 going to forget we're not going to go 1554 01:18:03,080 --> 01:17:58,500 into amnesia mode 1555 01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:03,090 and sometimes we need that shock you 1556 01:18:07,220 --> 01:18:05,490 know it goes that way when you're 1557 01:18:09,860 --> 01:18:07,230 raising your kids or anything else that 1558 01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:09,870 there's one thing that happens and then 1559 01:18:14,180 --> 01:18:12,120 you know what you don't go back down 1560 01:18:18,140 --> 01:18:14,190 that road hopefully this is it yeah 1561 01:18:20,510 --> 01:18:18,150 maybe this is the time that we realize 1562 01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:20,520 as a planet what is really going on and 1563 01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:26,310 and that goes for for me war negativity 1564 01:18:37,370 --> 01:18:33,450 food the the economy social inequalities 1565 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:37,380 and and things that that we can now look 1566 01:18:42,650 --> 01:18:40,530 at you know borders and nations and and 1567 01:18:44,180 --> 01:18:42,660 religions that maybe we could just 1568 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:44,190 forget about all of that and realized 1569 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:46,530 that we're Earthlings first that other 1570 01:18:50,750 --> 01:18:49,290 stuff doesn't really matter as much it 1571 01:18:55,580 --> 01:18:50,760 mattered back then it doesn't matter 1572 01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:55,590 today yeah some people call that a reset 1573 01:19:00,710 --> 01:18:58,080 we get a chance to reset and I had a 1574 01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:00,720 conversation very deep conversation with 1575 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:02,820 a friend of mine he was complaining and 1576 01:19:07,370 --> 01:19:05,130 depressed and I said well don't be 1577 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:07,380 depressed you chose to be born in this 1578 01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:10,050 era you chose to be born during this 1579 01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:13,490 thing so if you chose to be born here in 1580 01:19:20,030 --> 01:19:17,520 2020 then what is your contribution why 1581 01:19:22,010 --> 01:19:20,040 did why are you here why am I here why 1582 01:19:24,530 --> 01:19:22,020 is Jimmy church here wife why are we 1583 01:19:26,540 --> 01:19:24,540 here we're here to contribute something 1584 01:19:29,390 --> 01:19:26,550 otherwise we would have died a long time 1585 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:29,400 ago or we would have not been here 1586 01:19:36,710 --> 01:19:32,930 during this time so if you are breathing 1587 01:19:38,570 --> 01:19:36,720 during this time that means that this is 1588 01:19:42,580 --> 01:19:38,580 a time where you can contribute 1589 01:19:45,170 --> 01:19:42,590 something so I look at it as a amazing 1590 01:19:46,910 --> 01:19:45,180 opportunity and because I live in 1591 01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:46,920 Colorado I'm watching all these people 1592 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:48,480 who never took a walk in their whole 1593 01:19:51,470 --> 01:19:49,050 lives 1594 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:51,480 walking around this lake and I'm going 1595 01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:54,330 did you know that yeah you're alive did 1596 01:19:58,970 --> 01:19:55,920 you know that you're walking around the 1597 01:20:01,760 --> 01:19:58,980 most beautiful lake with birds all over 1598 01:20:03,530 --> 01:20:01,770 and you know flower is coming up and the 1599 01:20:05,620 --> 01:20:03,540 mountain it with the snow right in front 1600 01:20:08,110 --> 01:20:05,630 of you did you know this 1601 01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:08,120 and I think those people all go back to 1602 01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:09,920 work normally I think they'll remember 1603 01:20:14,890 --> 01:20:12,409 the lake and the walk and all of these 1604 01:20:17,649 --> 01:20:14,900 things that made people wake up and I 1605 01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:17,659 think that's the definition that I Lake 1606 01:20:21,820 --> 01:20:19,760 of consciousness because people think 1607 01:20:23,890 --> 01:20:21,830 consciousness is woowoo New Age no 1608 01:20:25,450 --> 01:20:23,900 conscious just means that when you're 1609 01:20:26,890 --> 01:20:25,460 taking a walk you'll notice the Robin 1610 01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:26,900 you notice everything you'll notice your 1611 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:28,880 breathing and you know you're alive I 1612 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:33,530 think I think that it really made our 1613 01:20:38,919 --> 01:20:36,170 consciousness elevate to a greater 1614 01:20:41,709 --> 01:20:38,929 extent hasn't this always been the 1615 01:20:46,780 --> 01:20:41,719 message from the space brothers any of 1616 01:20:47,770 --> 01:20:46,790 them over the decades yeah because I 1617 01:20:51,129 --> 01:20:47,780 mean I don't think they have the 1618 01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:51,139 distractions we have I don't think that 1619 01:20:56,260 --> 01:20:53,449 they must have really gone through 1620 01:20:59,260 --> 01:20:56,270 really difficult periods in order to 1621 01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:59,270 have this travel you know through space 1622 01:21:03,580 --> 01:21:02,000 or anticipations by the way it's not I 1623 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:03,590 don't believe that it's from one place 1624 01:21:07,740 --> 01:21:05,810 to another I believe they've discovered 1625 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:07,750 technology who can't even dream about 1626 01:21:12,490 --> 01:21:10,250 and I don't think everybody comes from 1627 01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:12,500 other planets I think like in the case 1628 01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:14,630 of the opinions that I was just talking 1629 01:21:19,270 --> 01:21:16,880 about in Peru they've got a base there 1630 01:21:21,209 --> 01:21:19,280 they live here they live you know they 1631 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:21,219 already live on the planet there are 1632 01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:23,810 civilizations that already live on this 1633 01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:26,960 planet so you know I think that that 1634 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:30,080 they probably figure it's better to have 1635 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:32,810 a cosmic consciousness and an individual 1636 01:21:38,140 --> 01:21:36,530 selfish kind of a consciousness where 1637 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:38,150 everybody's out for number one 1638 01:21:44,919 --> 01:21:42,290 but this planet has free will so I mean 1639 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:44,929 you get to choose how you do how you 1640 01:21:49,870 --> 01:21:46,730 playing this game you get to choose 1641 01:21:53,620 --> 01:21:49,880 where maybe in other planets they could 1642 01:21:55,689 --> 01:21:53,630 do it for the common good so I mean this 1643 01:21:57,180 --> 01:21:55,699 is all hypothesis but by the way I don't 1644 01:22:00,399 --> 01:21:57,190 want people to think I know anything 1645 01:22:05,260 --> 01:22:00,409 because after 30 years of research I 1646 01:22:07,330 --> 01:22:05,270 know nothing nothing I don't know if you 1647 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:07,340 know nothing but I would agree with the 1648 01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:11,810 Hat in in that Giorgio tsoukalos a 1649 01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:14,000 couple of years ago on the show that 1650 01:22:17,850 --> 01:22:16,159 I've said this so many times 1651 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:17,860 when when 1652 01:22:24,090 --> 01:22:19,330 the middle of the conversation like this 1653 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:24,100 one in that he said look Jimmy when when 1654 01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:26,650 it happens like when it really really 1655 01:22:31,890 --> 01:22:29,710 happens that saucer comes down and he 1656 01:22:33,540 --> 01:22:31,900 comes off of it and we started having a 1657 01:22:36,030 --> 01:22:33,550 conversation and he starts telling us 1658 01:22:44,070 --> 01:22:36,040 things we will find out at that point 1659 01:22:45,930 --> 01:22:44,080 that we were all wrong it stopped me in 1660 01:22:50,010 --> 01:22:45,940 my tracks it just stopped me in my 1661 01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:50,020 tracks it was such a profound and I I 1662 01:22:54,810 --> 01:22:52,270 don't think that anything more true 1663 01:22:58,709 --> 01:22:54,820 could be said I think he's absolutely 1664 01:23:01,140 --> 01:22:58,719 right I agree with you you know l I you 1665 01:23:02,490 --> 01:23:01,150 know I I'm not all wrong because I don't 1666 01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:02,500 know what's happening so that I don't 1667 01:23:09,359 --> 01:23:06,369 have a thesis I don't know I my job is 1668 01:23:12,450 --> 01:23:09,369 just and this is my job just to gather 1669 01:23:15,149 --> 01:23:12,460 the testimony whether it's Edgar 1670 01:23:18,990 --> 01:23:15,159 Mitchell astronaut Edgar Mitchell or the 1671 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:19,000 people in Latin America or you know the 1672 01:23:23,459 --> 01:23:21,730 the friendship case I just did the 1673 01:23:25,290 --> 01:23:23,469 friendship case in Chile that 1674 01:23:28,379 --> 01:23:25,300 everybody's wondering about I spoke to 1675 01:23:30,930 --> 01:23:28,389 businesses there or the one in in Italy 1676 01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:30,940 my job is just to put it together and 1677 01:23:37,709 --> 01:23:33,670 then leave it up to you and the 1678 01:23:41,310 --> 01:23:37,719 listeners to connect the dots I have no 1679 01:23:44,129 --> 01:23:41,320 idea how this is working out I mean I I 1680 01:23:46,109 --> 01:23:44,139 don't know what the purpose of it all 1681 01:23:48,090 --> 01:23:46,119 was I don't know I 1682 01:23:50,510 --> 01:23:48,100 I'll tell you something and I really 1683 01:23:52,830 --> 01:23:50,520 think if people want to know about 1684 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:52,840 research they should be reading the 1685 01:23:58,729 --> 01:23:55,770 books of Jacques Vallee I agree with you 1686 01:24:03,240 --> 01:23:58,739 because I didn't understand anything 1687 01:24:06,350 --> 01:24:03,250 until I read the invisible College 1688 01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:06,360 forbidden science one two three and four 1689 01:24:12,899 --> 01:24:09,820 passport to Magana and even though he's 1690 01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:12,909 80 years old that man has got it 1691 01:24:18,629 --> 01:24:15,520 together because he said something very 1692 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:18,639 profound he said I would be disappointed 1693 01:24:27,689 --> 01:24:23,170 if UFOs are only visitors from other 1694 01:24:30,330 --> 01:24:27,699 planets it is so much more it is maybe 1695 01:24:33,290 --> 01:24:30,340 our consciousness manifesting 1696 01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:33,300 a teaching mechanism to make us grow up 1697 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:36,190 no we're gonna yeah that's true right 1698 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:40,090 Wow yeah I agree I agree we're gonna be 1699 01:24:45,419 --> 01:24:42,010 headed towards a break let me ask you 1700 01:24:49,589 --> 01:24:45,429 this really quick the descriptions going 1701 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:49,599 back to as early as Van Tassel these 1702 01:24:57,839 --> 01:24:54,210 descriptions of who he was meeting with 1703 01:25:01,979 --> 01:24:57,849 has been always in my eyes and others 1704 01:25:09,450 --> 01:25:01,989 that followed that they were just like 1705 01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:09,460 us in appearance wood wood wood we know 1706 01:25:16,649 --> 01:25:11,710 it right if we were walking down the 1707 01:25:18,419 --> 01:25:16,659 street we wouldn't would we know and I 1708 01:25:20,970 --> 01:25:18,429 talked to Glenn Strickland who is the 1709 01:25:22,740 --> 01:25:20,980 identity person and he goes at danske 1710 01:25:24,540 --> 01:25:22,750 when he did his lectures have two et 1711 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:24,550 sitting in the back there young men and 1712 01:25:29,010 --> 01:25:27,130 then he shows me a Polaroid he says this 1713 01:25:31,500 --> 01:25:29,020 is a lecture in Germany says pick out 1714 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:31,510 the et right and because this guy was 1715 01:25:34,410 --> 01:25:32,650 overdressed 1716 01:25:36,689 --> 01:25:34,420 because et's when they come here they 1717 01:25:37,979 --> 01:25:36,699 put on suits and ties and they they're 1718 01:25:41,550 --> 01:25:37,989 overdressed they should get a clue about 1719 01:25:43,050 --> 01:25:41,560 how we dress and you know this got this 1720 01:25:45,570 --> 01:25:43,060 very young guy that looked like Tab 1721 01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:45,580 Hunter the you know the old movie star 1722 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:47,920 is standing there in the picture that he 1723 01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:50,650 that Declan shows me I said that's the 1724 01:25:55,890 --> 01:25:53,440 et and he goes yeah that's et and I'm 1725 01:25:57,689 --> 01:25:55,900 going oh my god he's a young man he 1726 01:26:01,020 --> 01:25:57,699 looks just like you wouldn't be able to 1727 01:26:03,839 --> 01:26:01,030 tell him apart from anything so when 1728 01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:03,849 Miss Michelle surger may I may I tell 1729 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:06,070 you to read this book it's called we are 1730 01:26:12,959 --> 01:26:09,489 here visitors without passports this is 1731 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:12,969 the French researcher he tells about all 1732 01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:15,130 the cases of ETS that are walking around 1733 01:26:21,330 --> 01:26:18,070 in Paris and and different places in 1734 01:26:23,550 --> 01:26:21,340 Norway and and you know people figure it 1735 01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:23,560 out because they're a little weird 1736 01:26:31,530 --> 01:26:25,440 well the same thing with valiant Thor 1737 01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:31,540 right now I'm not I didn't take the 1738 01:26:39,149 --> 01:26:35,050 picture I haven't I have no idea if 1739 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:39,159 those Marty Roberts know August Roberts 1740 01:26:42,949 --> 01:26:41,170 took the picture right I have all the 1741 01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:42,959 statements I have letter 1742 01:26:46,459 --> 01:26:44,729 I have left comes from the wendell 1743 01:26:49,489 --> 01:26:46,469 stevens archive so i know who took the 1744 01:26:53,209 --> 01:26:49,499 pictures well that guy that valiant Thor 1745 01:26:56,359 --> 01:26:53,219 you wouldn't know you wouldn't know have 1746 01:27:00,129 --> 01:26:56,369 you and I wanted to ask you have you 1747 01:27:04,489 --> 01:27:00,139 ever have you ever met somebody like 1748 01:27:07,009 --> 01:27:04,499 valiant and that said they were not of 1749 01:27:11,419 --> 01:27:07,019 this planet and and you couldn't tell 1750 01:27:13,549 --> 01:27:11,429 the difference I had a contact where I 1751 01:27:15,919 --> 01:27:13,559 could tell the difference but I asked 1752 01:27:18,229 --> 01:27:15,929 him it'd be good about this and I asked 1753 01:27:21,109 --> 01:27:18,239 Colin Andrews about this and Timothy 1754 01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:21,119 good said he was in a hotel in London he 1755 01:27:25,819 --> 01:27:23,820 said he was he saw this guy come in in a 1756 01:27:28,909 --> 01:27:25,829 three-piece suit very elegant 1757 01:27:32,330 --> 01:27:28,919 he said yes yet you figured out that it 1758 01:27:33,949 --> 01:27:32,340 could be an et so telepathically he said 1759 01:27:35,899 --> 01:27:33,959 to the guy is the guy was reading the 1760 01:27:38,449 --> 01:27:35,909 newspaper if you are not from this 1761 01:27:41,569 --> 01:27:38,459 planet take your index finger and put it 1762 01:27:45,459 --> 01:27:41,579 on the left side of your nose and the 1763 01:27:49,129 --> 01:27:45,469 guy did that yeah it was profound 1764 01:27:51,109 --> 01:27:49,139 profound I mean my god you know can you 1765 01:27:53,089 --> 01:27:51,119 imagine if I did that telepathically and 1766 01:27:55,279 --> 01:27:53,099 the guy did that I said what happened he 1767 01:27:57,109 --> 01:27:55,289 said I was in shock the guy sold in the 1768 01:27:59,540 --> 01:27:57,119 newspaper and walked out and Colin 1769 01:28:02,029 --> 01:27:59,550 Andrews has a similar story of a girl 1770 01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:02,039 and said I'm going to come into your 1771 01:28:05,959 --> 01:28:04,169 coffee shop now and I'm not from here 1772 01:28:08,799 --> 01:28:05,969 and this beautiful woman walked in she 1773 01:28:11,359 --> 01:28:08,809 had ridden a bicycle over there and 1774 01:28:14,959 --> 01:28:11,369 Colin was with his wife he looked over 1775 01:28:18,620 --> 01:28:14,969 at another table she was there and he 1776 01:28:21,859 --> 01:28:18,630 was too scared too afraid to do anything 1777 01:28:26,649 --> 01:28:21,869 and and so there are people that have 1778 01:28:30,259 --> 01:28:26,659 had this thing this have you had it ah 1779 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:30,269 no not that I know no not that I can 1780 01:28:35,299 --> 01:28:32,610 confirm let's take our break right here 1781 01:28:37,969 --> 01:28:35,309 I might tell you a little story when we 1782 01:28:41,239 --> 01:28:37,979 come back a suspect of black our guest 1783 01:28:42,530 --> 01:28:41,249 tonight Paula lares it's all et all you 1784 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:42,540 opposed all 1785 01:28:47,150 --> 01:28:44,610 long when we come back we're gonna 1786 01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:47,160 discuss Stephen Greer's new film it is 1787 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:48,960 called Close Encounters of the fifth 1788 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:49,530 kind 1789 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:51,210 stay right there this is fade to black 1790 01:29:00,200 --> 01:28:53,970 and the game-changer network and cagey 1791 01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:06,340 [Music] 1792 01:29:13,550 --> 01:29:09,520 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1793 01:29:15,860 --> 01:29:13,560 you're listening to phantom black always 1794 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:15,870 on the edge of the hottest alternative 1795 01:29:36,170 --> 01:29:18,690 talk jimmy church with fade to black 1796 01:29:38,930 --> 01:29:36,180 stay GRA radio.com do you want to be an 1797 01:29:40,910 --> 01:29:38,940 official fade or not of course you do 1798 01:29:43,460 --> 01:29:40,920 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01:33:31,380 --> 01:33:28,980 [Applause] 1869 01:33:33,750 --> 01:33:31,390 welcome back pay the black Camaro super 1870 01:33:35,939 --> 01:33:33,760 church on the GameChanger network and kg 1871 01:33:38,250 --> 01:33:35,949 re the planet you can follow me on 1872 01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:38,260 twitter at GH radio you can do that now 1873 01:33:44,370 --> 01:33:41,290 and if you ever miss a live show like 1874 01:33:47,250 --> 01:33:44,380 this one right here in the now now just 1875 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:47,260 get our podcast it's $2.00 per month 1876 01:33:52,169 --> 01:33:50,050 we have over 1200 episodes right there 1877 01:33:54,990 --> 01:33:52,179 in the archive all the apps that you 1878 01:33:57,660 --> 01:33:55,000 need click on the podcast banner over to 1879 01:34:00,030 --> 01:33:57,670 me church radio com $2 per month help 1880 01:34:02,700 --> 01:34:00,040 support this show it's really simple to 1881 01:34:05,970 --> 01:34:02,710 do and our guest tonight is paula harris 1882 01:34:08,900 --> 01:34:05,980 and now I want to switch gears a little 1883 01:34:11,700 --> 01:34:08,910 bit and talk about this exciting year of 1884 01:34:14,790 --> 01:34:11,710 UFO documentaries we've got James Fox 1885 01:34:19,380 --> 01:34:14,800 with the phenomenon a tremendous film 1886 01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:19,390 I've been very fortunate to have watched 1887 01:34:24,750 --> 01:34:22,510 it get assembled and finally have seen 1888 01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:24,760 the final film it's incredible he's 1889 01:34:27,750 --> 01:34:26,800 going to be at your conference in 1890 01:34:30,689 --> 01:34:27,760 November 1891 01:34:34,290 --> 01:34:30,699 yeah and I've seen the final film tuned 1892 01:34:38,459 --> 01:34:34,300 it is an incredible what a work of art I 1893 01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:38,469 mean he is he has really assembled the 1894 01:34:43,050 --> 01:34:40,449 the proof that everybody needs 1895 01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:43,060 it's an incredible film yeah we're going 1896 01:34:47,580 --> 01:34:45,760 to screen it Saturday night and James is 1897 01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:47,590 a very close friend of mine he said just 1898 01:34:52,020 --> 01:34:49,510 say hello by the way I talked to her for 1899 01:34:55,970 --> 01:34:52,030 about an hour last night right he's 1900 01:34:59,640 --> 01:34:55,980 excited he's excited but it took every 1901 01:35:02,010 --> 01:34:59,650 every month there are every bit of his 1902 01:35:02,370 --> 01:35:02,020 energy to put this together over the 1903 01:35:05,130 --> 01:35:02,380 years 1904 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:05,140 yeah and for a minute there I didn't 1905 01:35:10,740 --> 01:35:08,610 think it was going to get done but it 1906 01:35:12,990 --> 01:35:10,750 because of the amount of work that he 1907 01:35:15,630 --> 01:35:13,000 had to put in seven years is a long time 1908 01:35:17,580 --> 01:35:15,640 in every opposite every obstacle that 1909 01:35:20,220 --> 01:35:17,590 you can imagine was put in front of him 1910 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:20,230 and then here he gets a full theatrical 1911 01:35:29,550 --> 01:35:22,570 nationwide release and then all the 1912 01:35:31,620 --> 01:35:29,560 theaters shut down about that it doesn't 1913 01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:31,630 matter that film will really impact 1914 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:35,440 people so it's it's gonna have a life of 1915 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:38,290 its own and then last night Steven Greer 1916 01:35:42,150 --> 01:35:39,370 his pre 1917 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:42,160 fear of Close Encounters of the fifth 1918 01:35:46,890 --> 01:35:45,010 kind I want to take a minute to talk 1919 01:35:49,130 --> 01:35:46,900 about that we could actually talk about 1920 01:35:54,090 --> 01:35:49,140 it for the whole segment 1921 01:35:55,740 --> 01:35:54,100 what's your first impressions okay 1922 01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:55,750 Steven Greer is a friend of mine I've 1923 01:36:00,120 --> 01:35:57,730 known him for over 30 years he came to 1924 01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:00,130 Italy when he was doing the disclosure 1925 01:36:04,740 --> 01:36:02,560 project and I'm the one that brought him 1926 01:36:07,260 --> 01:36:04,750 to Monsignor Balducci of the Vatican 1927 01:36:13,110 --> 01:36:07,270 plus we did a lot of work together in 1928 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:13,120 Europe so he's always been a forerunner 1929 01:36:19,500 --> 01:36:17,050 in this that film for me and this is how 1930 01:36:22,260 --> 01:36:19,510 I feel is one of the best films I've 1931 01:36:25,530 --> 01:36:22,270 ever seen in my entire life and the 1932 01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:25,540 reason being it goes past the nuts and 1933 01:36:32,970 --> 01:36:28,690 bolts you know of the cover-up of who's 1934 01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:32,980 who knows what of the original you know 1935 01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:35,440 Project Blue Book the early days rule 1936 01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:39,040 pal the Robertson panel for those that 1937 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:41,830 know UFOs all of the history and it goes 1938 01:36:47,010 --> 01:36:44,770 straight to where I want to be where I 1939 01:36:50,190 --> 01:36:47,020 am the space I am which is consciousness 1940 01:36:53,490 --> 01:36:50,200 and the way that he went there was by 1941 01:36:56,790 --> 01:36:53,500 explaining how that works in the terms 1942 01:36:59,810 --> 01:36:56,800 of quantum mechanics quantum physics and 1943 01:37:02,670 --> 01:36:59,820 what I then was Stephen on two or three 1944 01:37:04,710 --> 01:37:02,680 expeditions I've been in the film 1945 01:37:07,650 --> 01:37:04,720 serious because I was with him when he 1946 01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:07,660 filmed it and you can really effect 1947 01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:11,080 phenomena doing the protocols that he 1948 01:37:19,050 --> 01:37:15,250 has established so at the very end of 1949 01:37:22,110 --> 01:37:19,060 that film he's he's reached the Graduate 1950 01:37:24,900 --> 01:37:22,120 School of ufology which is the study of 1951 01:37:27,740 --> 01:37:24,910 consciousness so for me it's one of the 1952 01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:27,750 best films I've ever seen in my life and 1953 01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:32,170 the there's a bunch of stuff in it that 1954 01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:35,440 has never there so much that has never 1955 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:38,170 been seen before when you look at that 1956 01:37:45,930 --> 01:37:41,770 footage that is presented there not only 1957 01:37:47,670 --> 01:37:45,940 of the ce-5 stuff but other pieces of 1958 01:37:48,690 --> 01:37:47,680 UFO footage from around the world that 1959 01:37:50,940 --> 01:37:48,700 I've never seen before 1960 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:50,950 it's pretty cool to see things where 1961 01:37:55,300 --> 01:37:52,370 even somebody has seized 1962 01:37:59,140 --> 01:37:55,310 as you can learn something and see 1963 01:38:01,780 --> 01:37:59,150 something for the first time yeah and 1964 01:38:04,990 --> 01:38:01,790 and what it is is that you don't need to 1965 01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:05,000 go to anybody to do that you can because 1966 01:38:10,420 --> 01:38:06,650 Steven even admits if you do the 1967 01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:10,430 protocols and you have you know you go 1968 01:38:15,370 --> 01:38:13,250 to a space in your mind where that you 1969 01:38:18,730 --> 01:38:15,380 have a mind consciousness that is in the 1970 01:38:20,530 --> 01:38:18,740 field and your intention is is pure 1971 01:38:22,450 --> 01:38:20,540 enough you're going to have things 1972 01:38:24,910 --> 01:38:22,460 happen no matter what 1973 01:38:27,460 --> 01:38:24,920 I mean you can't help but have things 1974 01:38:28,990 --> 01:38:27,470 happen so he encourages it isn't like 1975 01:38:31,900 --> 01:38:29,000 Steven is the only one that brings 1976 01:38:33,940 --> 01:38:31,910 things you know the UFOs down even 1977 01:38:37,060 --> 01:38:33,950 though I know for a fact because I know 1978 01:38:39,700 --> 01:38:37,070 the property that he did it on it was a 1979 01:38:43,780 --> 01:38:39,710 friend of mine from Montreal that had a 1980 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:43,790 French chateau where Steven brought down 1981 01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:46,250 a UFO for the French military I died up 1982 01:38:51,820 --> 01:38:49,280 the photographs and you know and and he 1983 01:38:53,500 --> 01:38:51,830 had told the people he said they had 1984 01:38:56,410 --> 01:38:53,510 shut down the radars which helps a 1985 01:38:58,780 --> 01:38:56,420 little bit I you know they had asked he 1986 01:39:03,310 --> 01:38:58,790 had been talking about it for many years 1987 01:39:05,050 --> 01:39:03,320 he said a g7 country wants me to show 1988 01:39:09,370 --> 01:39:05,060 them if there's any way of having 1989 01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:09,380 contact was done outside of Paris I have 1990 01:39:14,410 --> 01:39:11,930 photos of it and he was able to actually 1991 01:39:16,540 --> 01:39:14,420 have a manifestation of a craft but then 1992 01:39:19,290 --> 01:39:16,550 everybody jumped out of their chairs ran 1993 01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:19,300 towards it and the thing just dissipated 1994 01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:22,250 you know and that's the problem is the 1995 01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:25,130 contact has to be very sensitive you 1996 01:39:29,980 --> 01:39:27,410 can't be screaming and yelling take me 1997 01:39:33,190 --> 01:39:29,990 take me and you know playing drums and 1998 01:39:37,900 --> 01:39:33,200 going crazy you have to have a kind of 1999 01:39:40,450 --> 01:39:37,910 respect respect for the contact and you 2000 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:40,460 know that's that I've seen Steven do 2001 01:39:45,100 --> 01:39:42,530 that I was with him in Durango I was 2002 01:39:46,750 --> 01:39:45,110 with him in Arizona and of course I was 2003 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:46,760 with him in the most beautiful place of 2004 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:49,130 all away where I have five acres of land 2005 01:39:55,990 --> 01:39:52,250 and that's Christo in Colorado so yeah I 2006 01:39:58,300 --> 01:39:56,000 you know I know this this works Jimmy 2007 01:40:00,430 --> 01:39:58,310 but when he explains how it works 2008 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:00,440 then the scientific community comes 2009 01:40:05,110 --> 01:40:02,210 onboard and that's a whole different 2010 01:40:06,060 --> 01:40:05,120 world he explains the quantum mechanics 2011 01:40:09,839 --> 01:40:06,070 he's got 2012 01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:09,849 Adam Curry there with explaining the app 2013 01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:12,130 on consciousness the random access 2014 01:40:17,459 --> 01:40:15,760 generator how this works and and Edgar 2015 01:40:20,609 --> 01:40:17,469 Mitchell it told me how it works and 2016 01:40:23,010 --> 01:40:20,619 this is a Apollo astronaut Edgar 2017 01:40:25,709 --> 01:40:23,020 Mitchell because he told me he was doing 2018 01:40:28,500 --> 01:40:25,719 these experiments from the moon and from 2019 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:28,510 the moon if you can send thoughts down 2020 01:40:34,799 --> 01:40:32,170 to Florida and in your thoughts travel 2021 01:40:37,169 --> 01:40:34,809 from the moon and this is an astronaut 2022 01:40:40,010 --> 01:40:37,179 then you can imagine where your thoughts 2023 01:40:44,689 --> 01:40:40,020 are traveling if you're doing ce-5 2024 01:40:47,819 --> 01:40:44,699 there's two things that are in common 2025 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:47,829 with these two documentaries I'm talking 2026 01:40:52,770 --> 01:40:50,050 about James Fox and Steven Greer two 2027 01:40:54,899 --> 01:40:52,780 totally different films and concept and 2028 01:40:59,250 --> 01:40:54,909 and the way they were approaching things 2029 01:41:04,100 --> 01:40:59,260 but cinematically they have upped the 2030 01:41:06,810 --> 01:41:04,110 level on quality here they are so 2031 01:41:10,319 --> 01:41:06,820 amazing to look at and the way that 2032 01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:10,329 Michael Missoula framed and shot and the 2033 01:41:15,660 --> 01:41:13,210 colorization and the editing on Close 2034 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:15,670 Encounters of the fifth kind it is as 2035 01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:20,050 good as any big production Hollywood 2036 01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:22,000 documentary that you've ever seen before 2037 01:41:27,299 --> 01:41:25,449 it's just that this is about et contact 2038 01:41:29,310 --> 01:41:27,309 and I think that is something that our 2039 01:41:32,549 --> 01:41:29,320 communities can end up being very proud 2040 01:41:35,549 --> 01:41:32,559 of but the whole world can watch this 2041 01:41:37,530 --> 01:41:35,559 and appreciate it it's not like the UFO 2042 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:37,540 documentaries that we've all seen before 2043 01:41:43,500 --> 01:41:41,650 is it not at all I'm so glad you said 2044 01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:43,510 that because Michael is a good friend I 2045 01:41:47,970 --> 01:41:46,000 I just interviewed him on my patreon 2046 01:41:49,979 --> 01:41:47,980 channel for the people to go on patreon 2047 01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:49,989 he was very reluctant because he's very 2048 01:41:54,990 --> 01:41:52,449 shy and I tell them it's a work of art 2049 01:41:58,109 --> 01:41:55,000 Michael it's a visionary work of art 2050 01:42:00,120 --> 01:41:58,119 it's a visual incredible visual 2051 01:42:02,189 --> 01:42:00,130 stimulation and high-definition it's 2052 01:42:04,890 --> 01:42:02,199 it's very beautiful and you're 2053 01:42:07,470 --> 01:42:04,900 absolutely right and glad you mention 2054 01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:07,480 Michael because Michael really has a 2055 01:42:14,220 --> 01:42:11,110 vision I said it's cohesive coherent it 2056 01:42:16,050 --> 01:42:14,230 goes somewhere and it's beautiful yeah 2057 01:42:21,330 --> 01:42:16,060 he is such a 2058 01:42:24,270 --> 01:42:21,340 Missoula is such okay he's he's like an 2059 01:42:27,300 --> 01:42:24,280 enigma when you're hanging out with him 2060 01:42:31,890 --> 01:42:27,310 he is he's very kind he's obviously very 2061 01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:31,900 smart and you think that he is is 2062 01:42:43,740 --> 01:42:38,170 grounded but but to be a director to 2063 01:42:45,810 --> 01:42:43,750 have vision and to be out out in front 2064 01:42:48,270 --> 01:42:45,820 of a huge project like that you also 2065 01:42:50,460 --> 01:42:48,280 have to have an ego you have to believe 2066 01:42:53,010 --> 01:42:50,470 that you are the person that can put 2067 01:42:55,790 --> 01:42:53,020 this together it's not for the timid and 2068 01:43:01,860 --> 01:42:55,800 so he's got this side of him that 2069 01:43:04,980 --> 01:43:01,870 appears timid and cocky but inside he's 2070 01:43:06,810 --> 01:43:04,990 vicious he wants the absolute very best 2071 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:06,820 I hope he's listening right now 2072 01:43:13,980 --> 01:43:12,250 and I know he's amazing and I it was to 2073 01:43:16,140 --> 01:43:13,990 get that interview that I did with him 2074 01:43:19,020 --> 01:43:16,150 was like pulling teeth but then I said 2075 01:43:21,330 --> 01:43:19,030 Michael you're Italian like me and the 2076 01:43:23,010 --> 01:43:21,340 Italians are great and you have to do it 2077 01:43:25,650 --> 01:43:23,020 I had to go to the fact that he's 2078 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:25,660 Italian and he had detachment and he's 2079 01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:29,290 very very self-conscious about about 2080 01:43:34,590 --> 01:43:32,110 being out out there yes but I said you 2081 01:43:38,220 --> 01:43:34,600 have to own it you did it you have to 2082 01:43:40,170 --> 01:43:38,230 own it and and I said it's probably one 2083 01:43:42,420 --> 01:43:40,180 of the best films I've ever seen and not 2084 01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:42,430 because you're my friend but because it 2085 01:43:47,460 --> 01:43:44,800 was when I when the film finishes and 2086 01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:47,470 you said you thought yesterday I had an 2087 01:43:53,460 --> 01:43:50,110 emotional reaction to the ending and I 2088 01:43:55,980 --> 01:43:53,470 said it did something to me she doesn't 2089 01:43:57,420 --> 01:43:55,990 usually happen he just texted right now 2090 01:44:03,630 --> 01:43:57,430 I'm gonna hold it up to the camera 2091 01:44:06,210 --> 01:44:03,640 he says Vicious lots of laughs and he 2092 01:44:08,610 --> 01:44:06,220 says maybe a tiny bit I'm holding it up 2093 01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:08,620 to the camera that that came in in real 2094 01:44:13,890 --> 01:44:11,920 time because you have to you can't be a 2095 01:44:15,810 --> 01:44:13,900 lightweight you know you've got to have 2096 01:44:19,110 --> 01:44:15,820 that inside of you you got to be a wolf 2097 01:44:20,850 --> 01:44:19,120 in sheep's clothing which is what 2098 01:44:23,790 --> 01:44:20,860 Michael is all about I have great 2099 01:44:26,490 --> 01:44:23,800 respect for his talent great I've never 2100 01:44:28,530 --> 01:44:26,500 seen the vicious part I've seen I see 2101 01:44:29,790 --> 01:44:28,540 Apollo what do you think part you've 2102 01:44:31,980 --> 01:44:29,800 been around for a long time what do you 2103 01:44:34,290 --> 01:44:31,990 think part and I said Michael you have 2104 01:44:36,900 --> 01:44:34,300 to go to what you believe and when you 2105 01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:36,910 have a vision yes and you have to have 2106 01:44:40,230 --> 01:44:38,650 some direction you're going in you can't 2107 01:44:42,690 --> 01:44:40,240 just throw a bunch of images together 2108 01:44:45,180 --> 01:44:42,700 you have to go you have to go in the 2109 01:44:47,220 --> 01:44:45,190 direction he said something very funny 2110 01:44:48,750 --> 01:44:47,230 though Jimmy and Michael of you're 2111 01:44:50,970 --> 01:44:48,760 listening I'm going to tell him what you 2112 01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:50,980 said he said that the first two films 2113 01:44:58,020 --> 01:44:55,050 were like potty training UFOs in ufology 2114 01:44:59,730 --> 01:44:58,030 and I love that I'm never gonna forget a 2115 01:45:01,320 --> 01:44:59,740 potty training you followed you which 2116 01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:01,330 means people who don't know anything 2117 01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:03,610 about the beginning the Project Blue 2118 01:45:08,610 --> 01:45:06,010 Book that you know the CIA cover-ups and 2119 01:45:11,730 --> 01:45:08,620 all that stuff I you know because 2120 01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:11,740 they've got Dodie in the film and and 2121 01:45:16,020 --> 01:45:13,690 then I love they have Danny she in there 2122 01:45:18,270 --> 01:45:16,030 because Danny shyam talks about how the 2123 01:45:20,820 --> 01:45:18,280 world works and how politics works and 2124 01:45:24,270 --> 01:45:20,830 how the cover-up works and who has the 2125 01:45:27,390 --> 01:45:24,280 agenda and then you know it goes from 2126 01:45:29,490 --> 01:45:27,400 that to the explanation of how Steven 2127 01:45:31,710 --> 01:45:29,500 Greer who was told that he shouldn't be 2128 01:45:34,530 --> 01:45:31,720 doing this you know you shouldn't be 2129 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:34,540 cavorting with the enemy it's like you 2130 01:45:38,340 --> 01:45:36,250 shouldn't be doing this how dare he come 2131 01:45:41,820 --> 01:45:38,350 out there and talk to the ETS without 2132 01:45:44,460 --> 01:45:41,830 bringing all of military with him he is 2133 01:45:46,710 --> 01:45:44,470 doing it how he's doing it even though 2134 01:45:50,010 --> 01:45:46,720 we shouldn't be doing this and and so 2135 01:45:52,740 --> 01:45:50,020 with a Michael Missoula he has a vision 2136 01:45:54,810 --> 01:45:52,750 of where this has to go so brilliant 2137 01:45:57,180 --> 01:45:54,820 Michael you are totally brilliant and 2138 01:45:59,250 --> 01:45:57,190 you're Italian yeah he said the other 2139 01:46:01,980 --> 01:45:59,260 day that his red sauce is better than 2140 01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:01,990 mine and we're gonna have to have a 2141 01:46:08,820 --> 01:46:03,970 cook-off and we're gonna have to have a 2142 01:46:11,850 --> 01:46:08,830 cook-off and the thing is Michael and 2143 01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:11,860 this is this is something that everybody 2144 01:46:18,270 --> 01:46:16,090 needs to appreciate he came up to me and 2145 01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:18,280 and showed me a couple of sneak peeks 2146 01:46:22,530 --> 01:46:20,590 and he said just just tell me honestly 2147 01:46:24,930 --> 01:46:22,540 man you know what do you think and I 2148 01:46:27,870 --> 01:46:24,940 think I watched I'd have to ask him but 2149 01:46:32,250 --> 01:46:27,880 it was probably ten minutes or 20 2150 01:46:35,370 --> 01:46:32,260 minutes of the film and I well I 2151 01:46:38,020 --> 01:46:35,380 expected this out of him but it was 2152 01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:38,030 really really great 2153 01:46:44,410 --> 01:46:41,449 I ended up getting the the full film and 2154 01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:44,420 I watched it any any's he had said to me 2155 01:46:50,350 --> 01:46:46,880 said justjust tell me he's nervous and 2156 01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:50,360 the the reason why he's nervous is 2157 01:46:54,669 --> 01:46:52,880 because with the with a with the film 2158 01:46:56,649 --> 01:46:54,679 like this in a documentary like this 2159 01:46:58,959 --> 01:46:56,659 with this subject matter you're putting 2160 01:47:01,209 --> 01:46:58,969 it all out there you know you're opening 2161 01:47:03,270 --> 01:47:01,219 yourself up to not only critics but 2162 01:47:06,250 --> 01:47:03,280 skeptics and debunkers and and 2163 01:47:09,339 --> 01:47:06,260 negativity and everything else and and 2164 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:09,349 he's got to ride those pins and needles 2165 01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:12,170 and I said you know what Michael you've 2166 01:47:15,729 --> 01:47:13,280 got nothing to worry about 2167 01:47:17,410 --> 01:47:15,739 this film is gonna stand on its own and 2168 01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:17,420 he's like man don't blow smoke and I'm 2169 01:47:24,220 --> 01:47:22,400 I'm not you need to be very and Michael 2170 01:47:26,229 --> 01:47:24,230 should know that I don't say things that 2171 01:47:29,979 --> 01:47:26,239 I don't mean even if he is a good friend 2172 01:47:33,189 --> 01:47:29,989 no I will I will critically assess 2173 01:47:35,410 --> 01:47:33,199 something I will critically assess it 2174 01:47:38,770 --> 01:47:35,420 because that's the way I am I don't want 2175 01:47:42,490 --> 01:47:38,780 to play games here but you know dr. 2176 01:47:45,010 --> 01:47:42,500 Greer should be taken seriously I mean 2177 01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:45,020 the man walks his talk yeah I don't 2178 01:47:53,020 --> 01:47:49,730 think that easy to do films and you know 2179 01:47:55,180 --> 01:47:53,030 dr. Greer has done three now and three 2180 01:47:58,600 --> 01:47:55,190 films and he did the disclosure project 2181 01:48:02,799 --> 01:47:58,610 and he was also a prominent figure in 2182 01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:02,809 the congressional hearings his heart his 2183 01:48:08,529 --> 01:48:05,090 heart and I remember being with Steven 2184 01:48:11,529 --> 01:48:08,539 in Durango and we finished the c-5 stuff 2185 01:48:13,060 --> 01:48:11,539 and he grabbed me and he said well yeah 2186 01:48:15,399 --> 01:48:13,070 I don't want to go home why would you 2187 01:48:18,310 --> 01:48:15,409 want to do anything else let's stay out 2188 01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:18,320 here I've been high I looked at him and 2189 01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:19,520 I said oh my god 2190 01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:21,679 you don't you don't even want to leave 2191 01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:24,170 right right you want to just stay here 2192 01:48:31,660 --> 01:48:27,770 and and he said why would you want to do 2193 01:48:33,310 --> 01:48:31,670 anything else except communicate with 2194 01:48:35,859 --> 01:48:33,320 the cosmos so we had all kinds of 2195 01:48:39,129 --> 01:48:35,869 phenomenon happening in Durango and and 2196 01:48:44,049 --> 01:48:39,139 the fact that Michael Mozilla can work 2197 01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:44,059 with dr. Greer's vision is is just a 2198 01:48:49,959 --> 01:48:46,400 wonderful testimony to what a beautiful 2199 01:48:50,790 --> 01:48:49,969 so Michael Missoula is and the fact that 2200 01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:50,800 it 2201 01:48:56,820 --> 01:48:53,770 you know he wants to make sure that we 2202 01:48:59,310 --> 01:48:56,830 got the message so I think Jimmy you got 2203 01:49:00,930 --> 01:48:59,320 it and I think I got it yeah the message 2204 01:49:02,340 --> 01:49:00,940 from Michael is he just sent me a 2205 01:49:07,740 --> 01:49:02,350 picture of what he's cooking right now 2206 01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:07,750 and he just said I have been Michael 2207 01:49:12,750 --> 01:49:10,210 knows I've been very honest with him and 2208 01:49:16,770 --> 01:49:12,760 I've been critical you know I've always 2209 01:49:19,860 --> 01:49:16,780 spoken the truth with him and I think he 2210 01:49:22,020 --> 01:49:19,870 respects that this film is going to 2211 01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:22,030 stand on its own 2212 01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:25,290 both cinematically the soundscape 2213 01:49:32,700 --> 01:49:29,410 everything that has been assembled with 2214 01:49:34,710 --> 01:49:32,710 the editing and the visuals it's going 2215 01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:34,720 to stand on its own and it's going to be 2216 01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:36,730 there for a very long time and going 2217 01:49:44,090 --> 01:49:41,680 back to the James Fox see it's the same 2218 01:49:46,590 --> 01:49:44,100 thing with phenomenal phenomenons gonna 2219 01:49:49,140 --> 01:49:46,600 let me say one more thing about Tim 2220 01:49:54,090 --> 01:49:49,150 Michaels was cooking my sauce is better 2221 01:49:58,830 --> 01:49:54,100 than his sauce I was born in Italy so 2222 01:50:03,840 --> 01:49:58,840 okay let's go to James and I think 2223 01:50:05,970 --> 01:50:03,850 Michael certainly myself we would we 2224 01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:05,980 would back off on our on our saw 2225 01:50:09,060 --> 01:50:08,320 statements when it comes to you there's 2226 01:50:14,490 --> 01:50:09,070 no question about it 2227 01:50:16,380 --> 01:50:14,500 is this that James with out of the blue 2228 01:50:19,110 --> 01:50:16,390 and I know what I saw two of the 2229 01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:19,120 greatest UFO documentaries period that's 2230 01:50:23,310 --> 01:50:22,390 it very high bar that he has got set up 2231 01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:23,320 for himself 2232 01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:26,290 and now he's coming out with phenomenon 2233 01:50:34,590 --> 01:50:31,570 which he knows critically how those two 2234 01:50:37,890 --> 01:50:34,600 previous documentaries of his have been 2235 01:50:40,650 --> 01:50:37,900 received and he's got phenomenon and I'm 2236 01:50:43,740 --> 01:50:40,660 here to tell you that it's also gonna 2237 01:50:46,440 --> 01:50:43,750 have the same legs that out of the blue 2238 01:50:48,660 --> 01:50:46,450 and I know what I saw I can watch those 2239 01:50:49,950 --> 01:50:48,670 two documentaries anytime and I've done 2240 01:50:52,020 --> 01:50:49,960 it I don't know how many times I've 2241 01:50:55,770 --> 01:50:52,030 watched them phenomenon it's gonna be 2242 01:50:58,290 --> 01:50:55,780 the same thing for James Fox I'm very 2243 01:51:01,080 --> 01:50:58,300 much and I told him this I'm looking 2244 01:51:02,730 --> 01:51:01,090 forward to the accolades that he is 2245 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:02,740 gonna get from this film it's gonna come 2246 01:51:06,660 --> 01:51:04,090 raining 2247 01:51:10,170 --> 01:51:06,670 let's add some something now one of the 2248 01:51:11,070 --> 01:51:10,180 the advisors is Jacques is Jacques 2249 01:51:14,010 --> 01:51:11,080 Vallee 2250 01:51:16,020 --> 01:51:14,020 and because he's I was surprised to see 2251 01:51:19,770 --> 01:51:16,030 a very young jock ballet with black hair 2252 01:51:23,700 --> 01:51:19,780 and glasses in that film I you know and 2253 01:51:25,890 --> 01:51:23,710 then Jacques is explaining the the way 2254 01:51:28,730 --> 01:51:25,900 the cover-up works and he's also 2255 01:51:31,860 --> 01:51:28,740 explaining the the value of science 2256 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:31,870 because the scientific community is is 2257 01:51:36,930 --> 01:51:33,730 the one that's the most skeptical and 2258 01:51:39,660 --> 01:51:36,940 has done the most debunking so he's got 2259 01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:39,670 a lot of Jacques Vallee in that film and 2260 01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:42,370 he's got a lot of footage because when 2261 01:51:45,870 --> 01:51:44,290 James would come to Bulgaria as a sister 2262 01:51:48,630 --> 01:51:45,880 here in Boulder I would say well he was 2263 01:51:50,610 --> 01:51:48,640 editing and he has gone to the archives 2264 01:51:53,670 --> 01:51:50,620 and pulled out footage like nobody's 2265 01:51:57,090 --> 01:51:53,680 seen all the Lonnie Zamora stuff I have 2266 01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:57,100 never seen Lonnie Zamora himself speak 2267 01:52:02,040 --> 01:51:59,920 and I know by the way Lonnie's the more 2268 01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:02,050 his wife just died of Karev the corona 2269 01:52:07,050 --> 01:52:04,530 virus unfortunately yeah you know and 2270 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:07,060 they had all kinds of problems when 2271 01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:09,850 Lonnie Zamora said he saw the the craft 2272 01:52:14,250 --> 01:52:12,130 land in saqqara land the beings come out 2273 01:52:16,170 --> 01:52:14,260 and then they even they even have the 2274 01:52:18,690 --> 01:52:16,180 physical traces like I was talking about 2275 01:52:20,370 --> 01:52:18,700 you know the footprints of Oregon they 2276 01:52:23,610 --> 01:52:20,380 have the physical traces of the craft 2277 01:52:27,330 --> 01:52:23,620 landing and the footprints of the beings 2278 01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:27,340 and people are going really after him if 2279 01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:29,770 you know I almost say that the debunkers 2280 01:52:33,570 --> 01:52:31,810 and the critics are our own people 2281 01:52:37,410 --> 01:52:33,580 they're our own people from our own 2282 01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:37,420 field and and and he went through so 2283 01:52:40,620 --> 01:52:39,520 much Zamora that he didn't want to talk 2284 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:40,630 about it anymore 2285 01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:43,570 and James had all of that footage there 2286 01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:46,540 and I'm going and he told me what he had 2287 01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:49,570 to go through and the the harry reid's 2288 01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:53,530 a part you know the government part he 2289 01:52:59,520 --> 01:52:57,250 has so much in there that anybody that 2290 01:53:03,030 --> 01:52:59,530 watches that you know it's like the new 2291 01:53:06,020 --> 01:53:03,040 york times statement it's real now you 2292 01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:06,030 better get a clue and in the UN footage 2293 01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:10,090 with and Jacques didn't even know that 2294 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:14,530 that existed and how James was able to 2295 01:53:19,279 --> 01:53:17,050 pull that off is it's pretty 2296 01:53:22,260 --> 01:53:19,289 extraordinary and de-seed in the film 2297 01:53:24,839 --> 01:53:22,270 again everybody's gonna have to wait and 2298 01:53:28,580 --> 01:53:24,849 it's a theatrical release and and we all 2299 01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:28,590 understand that yes I've seen it but 2300 01:53:38,339 --> 01:53:32,050 it's going to be worth the wait the 2301 01:53:39,839 --> 01:53:38,349 thing is what do you what do you what do 2302 01:53:41,879 --> 01:53:39,849 you think about the rest of the planet 2303 01:53:45,149 --> 01:53:41,889 right when they see this because we're 2304 01:53:48,779 --> 01:53:45,159 talking about a an an audience outside 2305 01:53:50,339 --> 01:53:48,789 of our community that's that's where 2306 01:53:52,709 --> 01:53:50,349 it's going to have its biggest effect 2307 01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:52,719 we're gonna love it we're gonna enjoy it 2308 01:53:58,200 --> 01:53:55,210 but it's the rest of the world that this 2309 01:53:59,549 --> 01:53:58,210 both of these films are made for what do 2310 01:54:02,669 --> 01:53:59,559 you think the reception is going to be 2311 01:54:04,260 --> 01:54:02,679 like well first of all I have to say for 2312 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:04,270 me it was emotional because I work with 2313 01:54:08,729 --> 01:54:07,090 Ellen and I saw Alan Hynek there and it 2314 01:54:11,700 --> 01:54:08,739 was like going back to the old days for 2315 01:54:14,879 --> 01:54:11,710 me so I'm very nostalgic I love the man 2316 01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:14,889 I thought he was wonderful but the what 2317 01:54:18,660 --> 01:54:17,440 at the end of the film I don't know if I 2318 01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:18,670 should be talking about it 2319 01:54:24,899 --> 01:54:22,449 he's got the children in Rwanda and I 2320 01:54:28,529 --> 01:54:24,909 was very moved by that these children 2321 01:54:30,689 --> 01:54:28,539 and also the Westfall case of where the 2322 01:54:33,959 --> 01:54:30,699 UFO came down and it was children in a 2323 01:54:38,129 --> 01:54:33,969 school that film ends with the children 2324 01:54:39,629 --> 01:54:38,139 the children talking about this and what 2325 01:54:41,879 --> 01:54:39,639 they and their children aren't there to 2326 01:54:43,859 --> 01:54:41,889 lie or to they weren't they weren't 2327 01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:43,869 trained these children are now grown up 2328 01:54:49,260 --> 01:54:46,510 so he had the original footage with John 2329 01:54:51,330 --> 01:54:49,270 Mack god bless him and then he has the 2330 01:54:54,270 --> 01:54:51,340 children grown up and how they look back 2331 01:54:57,390 --> 01:54:54,280 at what happened to them so people have 2332 01:54:59,700 --> 01:54:57,400 a choice they can do what a lot of 2333 01:55:02,819 --> 01:54:59,710 people do and say very nice but it 2334 01:55:05,549 --> 01:55:02,829 doesn't affect me or it can change their 2335 01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:05,559 reality and if it changes their reality 2336 01:55:11,819 --> 01:55:08,800 Jimmy then they change because that's 2337 01:55:14,430 --> 01:55:11,829 what happens with real true digestion of 2338 01:55:16,319 --> 01:55:14,440 the UFO phenomenon the reason why people 2339 01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:16,329 don't want to believe is that don't it 2340 01:55:20,990 --> 01:55:18,880 doesn't fit into their paradigm and they 2341 01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:21,000 don't want to change what they think and 2342 01:55:28,229 --> 01:55:25,210 it's disconcerting for a lot of people 2343 01:55:30,270 --> 01:55:28,239 so they have a choice they can say nice 2344 01:55:32,459 --> 01:55:30,280 movie that's really you know this was 2345 01:55:34,830 --> 01:55:32,469 really nicely done and take it as 2346 01:55:36,270 --> 01:55:34,840 science fiction or can they or they can 2347 01:55:38,130 --> 01:55:36,280 walk out of the theater and they can go 2348 01:55:42,090 --> 01:55:38,140 oh my god 2349 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:42,100 what do I do now band is there those are 2350 01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:44,410 the two choices and there is a third 2351 01:55:49,500 --> 01:55:47,890 film here that we need to talk about 2352 01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:49,510 because you're gonna have alan stivell 2353 01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:52,690 Minh at your college in November right 2354 01:56:01,200 --> 01:55:55,090 which is witness of another world 2355 01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:01,210 featuring jacques ballet and i i was so 2356 01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:04,480 moved by by that film in its approach 2357 01:56:16,229 --> 01:56:09,370 and its ending to as well was that that 2358 01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:16,239 if you don't cry but but allen's 2359 01:56:22,590 --> 01:56:19,840 approach to the film is as important as 2360 01:56:25,110 --> 01:56:22,600 any documentary on the UFO subject that 2361 01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:25,120 I have ever seen as certainly with a 2362 01:56:30,479 --> 01:56:27,250 different type of witness a different 2363 01:56:32,250 --> 01:56:30,489 approach to this the location and 2364 01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:32,260 everything else that comes into play in 2365 01:56:39,060 --> 01:56:35,050 witness of another world also makes it 2366 01:56:41,750 --> 01:56:39,070 an extraordinary documentary yes it does 2367 01:56:44,490 --> 01:56:41,760 and this is one of Jack's best cases 2368 01:56:46,860 --> 01:56:44,500 where he really had an emotional 2369 01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:46,870 reaction himself because he went back 2370 01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:49,090 years later because this was a little 2371 01:56:57,690 --> 01:56:53,410 boy that had had a contact in Gaucho 2372 01:56:59,940 --> 01:56:57,700 land and Argentina and and what had 2373 01:57:03,000 --> 01:56:59,950 happened was that the being aboard the 2374 01:57:04,860 --> 01:57:03,010 ship was a robotic being so here we 2375 01:57:06,540 --> 01:57:04,870 again it's not a run it's not a 2376 01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:06,550 reptilian it's not a gray it's not a 2377 01:57:12,060 --> 01:57:09,760 Nordic it was a robotic being and the 2378 01:57:14,430 --> 01:57:12,070 horse ended up dying and the worst 2379 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:14,440 believe it or not was tied to the to the 2380 01:57:19,770 --> 01:57:15,850 latter of the ship 2381 01:57:22,110 --> 01:57:19,780 of the of the craft and what was 2382 01:57:25,740 --> 01:57:22,120 interesting is that that the boy was 2383 01:57:29,580 --> 01:57:25,750 ostracized by his own clan so he had to 2384 01:57:33,290 --> 01:57:29,590 go and live by himself in the inn and 2385 01:57:35,430 --> 01:57:33,300 fend for himself in the in the farms 2386 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:35,440 what was interesting to me though 2387 01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:37,450 because I'm looking at why people have 2388 01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:38,250 contact 2389 01:57:44,810 --> 01:57:41,040 loves that his mother belonged to a very 2390 01:57:47,540 --> 01:57:44,820 shamanistic tribe she belonged to a 2391 01:57:48,410 --> 01:57:47,550 shaman group of people who thought that 2392 01:57:52,460 --> 01:57:48,420 was normal 2393 01:57:54,590 --> 01:57:52,470 had been having it for hundreds of years 2394 01:57:57,050 --> 01:57:54,600 and that's what Latin America is like 2395 01:58:01,340 --> 01:57:57,060 you talk about I was in Peru 2396 01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:01,350 I was actually near on Kosh I I was in 2397 01:58:07,030 --> 01:58:03,570 this B&B this lady was cooking dinner 2398 01:58:09,530 --> 01:58:07,040 for us and I walked up to her and I said 2399 01:58:11,690 --> 01:58:09,540 see that mountain up there I said there 2400 01:58:14,090 --> 01:58:11,700 they say there's an ET Base there and 2401 01:58:16,250 --> 01:58:14,100 there's et's in that base I said have 2402 01:58:18,110 --> 01:58:16,260 you ever seen them she said oh yeah she 2403 01:58:19,610 --> 01:58:18,120 said two of the men came down into the 2404 01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:19,620 bedroom of my children when they were 2405 01:58:24,950 --> 01:58:23,370 ten years old I said what and she said 2406 01:58:27,020 --> 01:58:24,960 yeah they saw them they were spacemen 2407 01:58:30,380 --> 01:58:27,030 they came down and my children didn't 2408 01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:30,390 think anything of it I said so you 2409 01:58:36,590 --> 01:58:34,170 people are cohabiting with these races 2410 01:58:38,900 --> 01:58:36,600 there have these bases here and it was 2411 01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:38,910 normal just like in witness to another 2412 01:58:43,700 --> 01:58:40,250 world 2413 01:58:47,150 --> 01:58:43,710 one Perez's mother you know belonged to 2414 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:47,160 a very shaman very spiritual group so 2415 01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:49,530 maybe one was and it was not an accident 2416 01:58:55,430 --> 01:58:53,090 that he had that contact it changed him 2417 01:58:56,900 --> 01:58:55,440 because they had him as a nine year old 2418 01:59:01,450 --> 01:58:56,910 boy and then they had him as an older 2419 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02:02:05,679 did you know that when you're on the 2492 02:02:09,870 --> 02:02:07,420 road with limited data or Wi-Fi 2493 02:02:11,970 --> 02:02:09,880 available you can still listen to every 2494 02:02:14,549 --> 02:02:11,980 minute of fade to black by just calling 2495 02:02:17,609 --> 02:02:14,559 six oh five five six two four four eight 2496 02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:17,619 two no smartphone app or internet needed 2497 02:02:22,709 --> 02:02:20,110 it saves your data plan and no extra 2498 02:02:25,500 --> 02:02:22,719 cost if you have unlimited minutes just 2499 02:02:27,689 --> 02:02:25,510 call six oh five five six two four four 2500 02:02:30,419 --> 02:02:27,699 eight two you can listen to me Jimmy 2501 02:02:50,850 --> 02:02:30,429 Church on any phone anytime anywhere 2502 02:02:51,830 --> 02:02:50,860 Gobekli Tepe I couldn't stay without PO 2503 02:02:55,470 --> 02:02:51,840 mr. Brooks 2504 02:03:00,399 --> 02:02:55,480 well I fade to black because you never 2505 02:03:04,399 --> 02:03:02,270 this is fade to black 2506 02:03:08,090 --> 02:03:04,409 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 2507 02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:08,100 radio network and kgr a the global radio 2508 02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:10,490 alliance 2509 02:03:24,350 --> 02:03:22,010 [Music] 2510 02:03:27,830 --> 02:03:24,360 welcome back may the block I'm hosting 2511 02:03:32,750 --> 02:03:27,840 the church great conversation going on 2512 02:03:38,060 --> 02:03:34,850 got my headphone cable all tangled up 2513 02:03:41,780 --> 02:03:38,070 I'm rolling over it and I want to 2514 02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:41,790 continue where we just left off and it's 2515 02:03:49,220 --> 02:03:46,050 it's more about I mean for me is that I 2516 02:03:52,729 --> 02:03:49,230 think because of shows like ancient 2517 02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:52,739 aliens and what was going on on national 2518 02:03:57,830 --> 02:03:55,110 TV certainly with documentaries but 2519 02:04:02,570 --> 02:03:57,840 programs like this and fade to black the 2520 02:04:05,060 --> 02:04:02,580 awareness out there about contact is 2521 02:04:08,979 --> 02:04:05,070 something that is a conversation it's a 2522 02:04:12,650 --> 02:04:08,989 conversation starter and it seems that 2523 02:04:15,580 --> 02:04:12,660 the ridicule for witnesses and 2524 02:04:18,770 --> 02:04:15,590 contactees and people coming forward 2525 02:04:21,830 --> 02:04:18,780 it's it's it's non-existent today or 2526 02:04:25,370 --> 02:04:21,840 it's not like it was in the past is it 2527 02:04:27,950 --> 02:04:25,380 easier powell of for people to come out 2528 02:04:31,660 --> 02:04:27,960 and talk about what they either have 2529 02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:31,670 seen or the contacts that they have had 2530 02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:34,050 well I have a little different approach 2531 02:04:40,370 --> 02:04:38,250 Jimmy for me and I've had a lot of 2532 02:04:42,290 --> 02:04:40,380 strange things up and especially in 2533 02:04:45,050 --> 02:04:42,300 Latin America especially it on the 2534 02:04:47,570 --> 02:04:45,060 Atacama Desert it's extremely private I 2535 02:04:50,150 --> 02:04:47,580 don't talk about it very much or if you 2536 02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:50,160 and Rita and I are sitting over coffee I 2537 02:04:55,370 --> 02:04:52,170 might bring it up but I don't like to 2538 02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:55,380 publicize things that especially if they 2539 02:05:03,530 --> 02:04:58,800 have messages with them that you know 2540 02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:03,540 that you are not profoundly private for 2541 02:05:10,430 --> 02:05:05,970 me that's the way I am unfortunately 2542 02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:10,440 though in in the past more in the past 2543 02:05:15,890 --> 02:05:14,250 and now the contactee has become you 2544 02:05:18,350 --> 02:05:15,900 know it's all about them instead of the 2545 02:05:20,330 --> 02:05:18,360 message it's more about the messenger 2546 02:05:23,570 --> 02:05:20,340 and the attention they get and so forth 2547 02:05:27,470 --> 02:05:23,580 and I I don't know if that's changed a 2548 02:05:30,590 --> 02:05:27,480 lot but I will tell you that everywhere 2549 02:05:33,170 --> 02:05:30,600 I go all over the world if you if the 2550 02:05:36,620 --> 02:05:33,180 subject comes up you'll find somebody at 2551 02:05:39,140 --> 02:05:36,630 the table or somebody who will come and 2552 02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:39,150 talk about their experience that doesn't 2553 02:05:43,370 --> 02:05:41,010 want to talk about it publicly and 2554 02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:43,380 that's the person that I usually take 2555 02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:46,290 the testimony of and there you 2556 02:05:52,370 --> 02:05:47,730 a lot of them some of them are 2557 02:05:55,130 --> 02:05:52,380 high-level people some of them are like 2558 02:05:57,290 --> 02:05:55,140 in the case of Perot the woman I just 2559 02:05:59,330 --> 02:05:57,300 she was cooking dinner this poor lady I 2560 02:06:01,940 --> 02:05:59,340 walked into the kitchen and we were at a 2561 02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:01,950 bed-and-breakfast I will ask people off 2562 02:06:07,340 --> 02:06:04,410 the street I will ask people in the 2563 02:06:10,730 --> 02:06:07,350 fields I ask people in the fields I ask 2564 02:06:13,940 --> 02:06:10,740 people behind the counters I asked just 2565 02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:13,950 regular people and their testimonies 2566 02:06:17,690 --> 02:06:15,690 they have no reason to lie they're not 2567 02:06:19,340 --> 02:06:17,700 making money they don't want notoriety 2568 02:06:21,410 --> 02:06:19,350 they don't want to be in the newspaper 2569 02:06:23,450 --> 02:06:21,420 they don't want to be on TV and those 2570 02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:23,460 testimonies are the ones that are more 2571 02:06:29,260 --> 02:06:26,610 of those I've got in my books because 2572 02:06:31,690 --> 02:06:29,270 they can even make it up but they tried 2573 02:06:35,060 --> 02:06:31,700 and isn't that the point 2574 02:06:37,790 --> 02:06:35,070 right that you can do this like you've 2575 02:06:40,010 --> 02:06:37,800 never done it before you can't be if 2576 02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:40,020 you're at the supermarket checkout line 2577 02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:42,690 running your groceries through need turn 2578 02:06:51,910 --> 02:06:46,650 the cashier hey ever see a UFO you can 2579 02:06:55,550 --> 02:06:51,920 do that today like that before I has it 2580 02:06:57,410 --> 02:06:55,560 well no it hasn't because if what it is 2581 02:06:59,210 --> 02:06:57,420 I remember doing an interview with 2582 02:07:01,040 --> 02:06:59,220 Michael Wolff I'm one of the only ones 2583 02:07:03,110 --> 02:07:01,050 that did the Michael wolf coolant case 2584 02:07:04,910 --> 02:07:03,120 you can't find his book anymore it's 2585 02:07:09,140 --> 02:07:04,920 called caches of heaviness it's about 2586 02:07:11,210 --> 02:07:09,150 400 dollars online I remember because I 2587 02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:11,220 was the only journalist that flew to 2588 02:07:15,590 --> 02:07:12,930 Hartford Connecticut to be with him when 2589 02:07:17,660 --> 02:07:15,600 he was dying he told me Paula he worked 2590 02:07:21,590 --> 02:07:17,670 for the CIA was a remote viewer he was 2591 02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:21,600 the contactee yeah and he he was a 2592 02:07:26,660 --> 02:07:24,330 double agent and he said you know he 2593 02:07:29,660 --> 02:07:26,670 said first of all he said it's a slow 2594 02:07:33,500 --> 02:07:29,670 process release of information and 2595 02:07:36,890 --> 02:07:33,510 excellent you know to ecla mate humanity 2596 02:07:39,410 --> 02:07:36,900 he told me that this was 1990 this was 2597 02:07:42,230 --> 02:07:39,420 in 2000 he said it's a slow process 2598 02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:42,240 release of information and then he said 2599 02:07:45,950 --> 02:07:44,490 you can't pull the rug out from under 2600 02:07:49,730 --> 02:07:45,960 people without replacing it was 2601 02:07:52,670 --> 02:07:49,740 something else and so I would listen to 2602 02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:52,680 him and he said watch the x-files he 2603 02:07:57,590 --> 02:07:55,290 said watch Chris Carter and at that time 2604 02:07:59,800 --> 02:07:57,600 it was the x-files and I loved the 2605 02:08:06,970 --> 02:07:59,810 x-files right 2606 02:08:08,620 --> 02:08:06,980 i I'm gonna go back to Halloween this 2607 02:08:11,110 --> 02:08:08,630 year believe it or not okay 2608 02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:11,120 Halloween we took the night off a fade 2609 02:08:16,150 --> 02:08:13,490 to black because I just decided that I 2610 02:08:18,100 --> 02:08:16,160 was gonna hand out candy dang it I've 2611 02:08:21,430 --> 02:08:18,110 missed Halloween for like four years in 2612 02:08:24,310 --> 02:08:21,440 a row and and Rita and I just wanted to 2613 02:08:26,650 --> 02:08:24,320 go and hang out with the kids so we did 2614 02:08:29,890 --> 02:08:26,660 just that but sitting out on our front 2615 02:08:32,290 --> 02:08:29,900 porch giving away candy all night this 2616 02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:32,300 is what happened never before have I 2617 02:08:41,740 --> 02:08:36,050 seen this it was like every other every 2618 02:08:48,070 --> 02:08:41,750 other costume that came up was an ET it 2619 02:08:50,590 --> 02:08:48,080 was one one four year old five year old 2620 02:08:55,630 --> 02:08:50,600 little girl wearing these you know these 2621 02:08:58,450 --> 02:08:55,640 really cool ET costumes and and I was 2622 02:09:00,850 --> 02:08:58,460 just it was awesome but I started 2623 02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:00,860 talking to the parents I was like hey so 2624 02:09:07,660 --> 02:09:03,770 what's up with this oh yeah ask ask him 2625 02:09:10,420 --> 02:09:07,670 ask her do they believe in UFOs really 2626 02:09:12,850 --> 02:09:10,430 and I'm looking at a five-year-old you 2627 02:09:15,940 --> 02:09:12,860 know little boy little girl like so 2628 02:09:18,430 --> 02:09:15,950 what's up you believe in 1830 er you 2629 02:09:22,780 --> 02:09:18,440 know and it's never been like that 2630 02:09:24,670 --> 02:09:22,790 before ever has it no but I think that's 2631 02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:24,680 your reality too I mean there are two 2632 02:09:31,540 --> 02:09:27,890 things ETS and superheroes okay so the 2633 02:09:33,910 --> 02:09:31,550 idea of superheroes they're et3 or is 2634 02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:33,920 there ET i mean i think they are get 2635 02:09:41,500 --> 02:09:37,730 some superman and those guys et to 3ds 2636 02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:41,510 also so you know the idea of superheroes 2637 02:09:48,340 --> 02:09:46,130 and and people from other other realms I 2638 02:09:50,650 --> 02:09:48,350 mean I really believe that that's normal 2639 02:09:54,580 --> 02:09:50,660 for those kids they've already been a 2640 02:09:58,270 --> 02:09:54,590 you know Derek you know acclimated to it 2641 02:10:00,040 --> 02:09:58,280 our media did it so but I think you've 2642 02:10:02,530 --> 02:10:00,050 got more of them than anybody else I 2643 02:10:04,570 --> 02:10:02,540 think they came to your house it was it 2644 02:10:05,569 --> 02:10:04,580 was awesome it was I nobody knows what I 2645 02:10:08,359 --> 02:10:05,579 do you know I 2646 02:10:10,329 --> 02:10:08,369 under the radar here in in the hood but 2647 02:10:14,750 --> 02:10:10,339 no but I mean on a subconscious 2648 02:10:16,339 --> 02:10:14,760 unconscious subconscious level I mean I 2649 02:10:20,750 --> 02:10:16,349 really believe that a lot of what 2650 02:10:23,419 --> 02:10:20,760 happens to us if on a subconscious we 2651 02:10:24,739 --> 02:10:23,429 create the you know serendipity things 2652 02:10:26,779 --> 02:10:24,749 I'm sure you have all kinds of 2653 02:10:29,089 --> 02:10:26,789 coincidences you go oh my god that's a 2654 02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:29,099 coincidence why did that happen to me I 2655 02:10:33,979 --> 02:10:31,530 got this message why did that happen to 2656 02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:33,989 me and and I think that the people that 2657 02:10:38,329 --> 02:10:36,089 are aware that this is not all on a 2658 02:10:40,310 --> 02:10:38,339 conscious level I mean it's more into 2659 02:10:42,859 --> 02:10:40,320 what Jack velay believes it's a teaching 2660 02:10:45,079 --> 02:10:42,869 mechanism it's like a matrix teaching 2661 02:10:47,239 --> 02:10:45,089 mechanism then on a subconscious level 2662 02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:47,249 you're gonna have the validation of what 2663 02:10:54,529 --> 02:10:52,079 you believe right right okay can I take 2664 02:11:03,949 --> 02:10:54,539 this opportunity to ask you a couple of 2665 02:11:06,979 --> 02:11:03,959 personal questions the first one is this 2666 02:11:09,290 --> 02:11:06,989 and putting things aside like like 2667 02:11:12,290 --> 02:11:09,300 manager the friendship case or Van 2668 02:11:16,939 --> 02:11:12,300 Tassel put all of that to the side but 2669 02:11:19,029 --> 02:11:16,949 is there a a photograph that moves you 2670 02:11:27,079 --> 02:11:19,039 that you look at and go you know what 2671 02:11:29,089 --> 02:11:27,089 that picture is is is the one well 2672 02:11:33,699 --> 02:11:29,099 that's really hard to answer are so many 2673 02:11:36,649 --> 02:11:33,709 pictures yes yes I did a case in Italy 2674 02:11:38,119 --> 02:11:36,659 the motiva Cavallo location people know 2675 02:11:40,849 --> 02:11:38,129 about it because it came out about ten 2676 02:11:43,790 --> 02:11:40,859 years ago it was very difficult to do 2677 02:11:46,729 --> 02:11:43,800 because I went back to him if he lives 2678 02:11:48,949 --> 02:11:46,739 in Beverly near Turin and I went back 2679 02:11:51,379 --> 02:11:48,959 three times three times because when I 2680 02:11:54,919 --> 02:11:51,389 don't believe something I can't do this 2681 02:11:57,259 --> 02:11:54,929 story so I have to go back and I have to 2682 02:11:59,089 --> 02:11:57,269 say I did that with the dan burisch case 2683 02:12:02,810 --> 02:11:59,099 by the way the you know Denver's right 2684 02:12:08,449 --> 02:12:02,820 nut case that he microbiologists with 2685 02:12:11,239 --> 02:12:08,459 the j-rod at area it was an s4 so if I 2686 02:12:13,389 --> 02:12:11,249 am not convinced I can't do it so I went 2687 02:12:15,619 --> 02:12:13,399 back the third time I went back 2688 02:12:18,199 --> 02:12:15,629 paramotor Gio says to me he was a 2689 02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:18,209 contact he was a follower of Woojin 2690 02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:19,170 you've said the coup 2691 02:12:23,479 --> 02:12:21,360 I find out that a lot of like sister 2692 02:12:25,939 --> 02:12:23,489 pods the followers of those guys the 2693 02:12:28,040 --> 02:12:25,949 young men that followed those guys are 2694 02:12:31,610 --> 02:12:28,050 also contactees because they were part 2695 02:12:33,380 --> 02:12:31,620 of that group so you know Marie she was 2696 02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:33,390 a follower of Virginia's it accrues that 2697 02:12:41,479 --> 02:12:37,170 I told you was our Adamski so um he said 2698 02:12:44,030 --> 02:12:41,489 to me you know Paula he said I have to 2699 02:12:47,930 --> 02:12:44,040 show you something and I said what I 2700 02:12:51,439 --> 02:12:47,940 said he said I I will tell you that my 2701 02:12:53,450 --> 02:12:51,449 contact who su L who he looked he was at 2702 02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:53,460 Val Thorens I he worked in a bank in 2703 02:12:59,720 --> 02:12:56,130 Rome he comes from the planet Clarion 2704 02:13:02,150 --> 02:12:59,730 they had a villa outside Florence and 2705 02:13:04,340 --> 02:13:02,160 they were living among humans he goes he 2706 02:13:06,620 --> 02:13:04,350 told me that you would come and I said 2707 02:13:08,540 --> 02:13:06,630 what are you talking about he goes an 2708 02:13:10,970 --> 02:13:08,550 American journalist is going to knock on 2709 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:10,980 your door ten years from now we want you 2710 02:13:17,060 --> 02:13:14,330 to let her in and see the pictures and 2711 02:13:19,370 --> 02:13:17,070 somebody just said this and I was in 2712 02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:19,380 shock because I don't like people 2713 02:13:25,130 --> 02:13:22,410 telling knowing what I'm doing and also 2714 02:13:26,959 --> 02:13:25,140 he said come to my house and he said 2715 02:13:29,330 --> 02:13:26,969 they predicted you would come he pulls 2716 02:13:32,330 --> 02:13:29,340 out these Polaroids of these faces of 2717 02:13:36,410 --> 02:13:32,340 these ETS that one of them look like 2718 02:13:38,709 --> 02:13:36,420 Grace Kelly and and they were beautiful 2719 02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:38,719 and people have seen them on my Facebook 2720 02:13:44,180 --> 02:13:41,010 swell himself coming out of the 2721 02:13:46,490 --> 02:13:44,190 spaceship then he plays swells voice 2722 02:13:49,010 --> 02:13:46,500 from a tape recorder here's my leads 2723 02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:49,020 your playing cards all at once a tape 2724 02:13:53,750 --> 02:13:51,360 recorder comes on and this is repeated 2725 02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:53,760 in the giant rock people by the way a 2726 02:13:57,860 --> 02:13:55,530 lot of these stories the same thing 2727 02:13:59,180 --> 02:13:57,870 happens the tape recorder comes on and 2728 02:14:01,580 --> 02:13:59,190 swells voice comes 2729 02:14:04,340 --> 02:14:01,590 greetings in italian greetings modi's 2730 02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:04,350 hill from outer space we are above we 2731 02:14:09,590 --> 02:14:07,290 are you know in above your house and so 2732 02:14:11,479 --> 02:14:09,600 forth and I'm getting all of this proof 2733 02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:11,489 in fact time he came to do the story 2734 02:14:15,830 --> 02:14:14,130 with me I think Jaime's mothers were the 2735 02:14:20,209 --> 02:14:15,840 greatest journalists he's not a 2736 02:14:22,189 --> 02:14:20,219 ufologist he's a journalist and so I did 2737 02:14:24,919 --> 02:14:22,199 the story and when they show me the 2738 02:14:27,080 --> 02:14:24,929 photos of the little Clarion girl Chris 2739 02:14:29,510 --> 02:14:27,090 skin is blue and she looks like a 2740 02:14:32,479 --> 02:14:29,520 regular little girl the only problem is 2741 02:14:32,930 --> 02:14:32,489 her ears are oversized I mean she's got 2742 02:14:36,200 --> 02:14:32,940 big 2743 02:14:37,610 --> 02:14:36,210 years but her her facial expression so 2744 02:14:39,620 --> 02:14:37,620 it pulls out these Polaroids and you 2745 02:14:41,570 --> 02:14:39,630 can't fake Polaroids and he I said have 2746 02:14:45,350 --> 02:14:41,580 you ever shown these to anybody he 2747 02:14:47,540 --> 02:14:45,360 doesn't know because he said they wanted 2748 02:14:49,670 --> 02:14:47,550 me to wait ten years and he said I did 2749 02:14:52,790 --> 02:14:49,680 what they told me to do so 2750 02:14:56,479 --> 02:14:52,800 it's the contact he has to do what the 2751 02:14:58,370 --> 02:14:56,489 ETS tell him to do otherwise ETS go home 2752 02:15:00,830 --> 02:14:58,380 that's what I think a lot of people 2753 02:15:03,770 --> 02:15:00,840 don't have contact today because they 2754 02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:03,780 don't it doesn't become they don't kind 2755 02:15:09,620 --> 02:15:07,050 of follow directions and so I saw these 2756 02:15:12,439 --> 02:15:09,630 so and I can send it to you because you 2757 02:15:14,330 --> 02:15:12,449 probably want to see it now but I can 2758 02:15:16,670 --> 02:15:14,340 send you what he let me see and I said 2759 02:15:20,630 --> 02:15:16,680 would you allow me to show this to the 2760 02:15:23,870 --> 02:15:20,640 world and he said yes yeah where are 2761 02:15:26,959 --> 02:15:23,880 they today the Polaroids well I got a 2762 02:15:28,580 --> 02:15:26,969 money oh no okay the originals the 2763 02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:28,590 originals and where are they - oh 2764 02:15:33,170 --> 02:15:30,930 they're in his house they're in his 2765 02:15:35,450 --> 02:15:33,180 house he it was an album you know the 2766 02:15:38,090 --> 02:15:35,460 old-fashioned element the plastics on 2767 02:15:41,479 --> 02:15:38,100 top that we used to have for our 2768 02:15:44,620 --> 02:15:41,489 photographs a little album like with the 2769 02:15:47,990 --> 02:15:44,630 plastic on top like we had in the 1950s 2770 02:15:54,729 --> 02:15:48,000 pretty 1950s that's the way I still do 2771 02:16:00,500 --> 02:15:58,270 all right pulled out the Polaroids and 2772 02:16:02,270 --> 02:16:00,510 unless you know you staged the whole 2773 02:16:04,540 --> 02:16:02,280 thing which I doubt he did because he 2774 02:16:08,030 --> 02:16:04,550 was a follower of citta Cuza 2775 02:16:11,930 --> 02:16:08,040 you know and so I answered your question 2776 02:16:14,689 --> 02:16:11,940 and I'll send you two of the of the 2777 02:16:18,020 --> 02:16:14,699 pictures that struck me and of course I 2778 02:16:21,459 --> 02:16:18,030 had no choice I could hide it I could I 2779 02:16:23,450 --> 02:16:21,469 could publish it and then incur all the 2780 02:16:25,220 --> 02:16:23,460 debunkers who don't even know what 2781 02:16:27,140 --> 02:16:25,230 they're talking about because they never 2782 02:16:29,240 --> 02:16:27,150 went to talk to him out easier the 2783 02:16:31,850 --> 02:16:29,250 debunkers never do the research so 2784 02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:31,860 they're talking from never having I 2785 02:16:35,900 --> 02:16:33,570 can't have a conversation with somebody 2786 02:16:37,700 --> 02:16:35,910 that didn't do the same work you know I 2787 02:16:39,410 --> 02:16:37,710 mean what kind of cover station getting 2788 02:16:41,780 --> 02:16:39,420 you up you never met the guy you never 2789 02:16:45,260 --> 02:16:41,790 but to this house you never did anything 2790 02:16:47,180 --> 02:16:45,270 so I had to take a chance and I did I 2791 02:16:49,550 --> 02:16:47,190 but then they you know Moe teacher tells 2792 02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:49,560 me oh well that they said you were 2793 02:16:54,710 --> 02:16:51,810 coming so what do I do I got to do what 2794 02:16:57,820 --> 02:16:54,720 I'm supposed to do yeah for me it's 2795 02:17:02,120 --> 02:16:57,830 still I always go back to the Rex Heflin 2796 02:17:04,880 --> 02:17:02,130 photographs from Santa Hana from 67 2797 02:17:07,310 --> 02:17:04,890 which were Polaroids too by the way 2798 02:17:11,450 --> 02:17:07,320 oddly enough and you're right you can't 2799 02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:11,460 you can't fake those you mentioned dan 2800 02:17:20,960 --> 02:17:14,850 burisch i haven't heard his name in 2801 02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:20,970 years where is Dan these days okay well 2802 02:17:25,730 --> 02:17:23,450 this is this is what people need to know 2803 02:17:27,500 --> 02:17:25,740 one of the things that convinces me 2804 02:17:28,790 --> 02:17:27,510 people are telling the truth is if they 2805 02:17:30,980 --> 02:17:28,800 don't keep coming out and going 2806 02:17:34,280 --> 02:17:30,990 conferences and doing things and you 2807 02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:34,290 know becoming stars he told me Paula I 2808 02:17:38,570 --> 02:17:36,240 have this little window of time I'm 2809 02:17:40,490 --> 02:17:38,580 allowed to speak he said and I'm not 2810 02:17:42,860 --> 02:17:40,500 enjoying it I've been shot at I've been 2811 02:17:44,810 --> 02:17:42,870 beat up he said the minute we finish 2812 02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:44,820 this he said I'm going back to doing 2813 02:17:49,160 --> 02:17:46,770 what I love he said I'm a microbiologist 2814 02:17:51,410 --> 02:17:49,170 I'm working on he was working on the 2815 02:17:51,860 --> 02:17:51,420 Ganesh particle he says and that's where 2816 02:17:54,530 --> 02:17:51,870 I'm going 2817 02:17:56,360 --> 02:17:54,540 and after I did the story I tried to 2818 02:17:59,180 --> 02:17:56,370 reach him two times just to have coffee 2819 02:18:01,670 --> 02:17:59,190 I didn't want to do any more I just did 2820 02:18:03,650 --> 02:18:01,680 it and send my books and I wanted to 2821 02:18:04,250 --> 02:18:03,660 just have coffee and I couldn't find him 2822 02:18:06,560 --> 02:18:04,260 anymore 2823 02:18:09,460 --> 02:18:06,570 he he did what he was supposed to do and 2824 02:18:12,170 --> 02:18:09,470 then he went back into the woodwork and 2825 02:18:16,370 --> 02:18:12,180 but it took me a long time to swallow it 2826 02:18:17,900 --> 02:18:16,380 you know to understand it you know you 2827 02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:17,910 got to understand I started with nothing 2828 02:18:22,820 --> 02:18:20,250 both live Allen Hynek putting pins and 2829 02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:22,830 maps right I didn't want to know what 2830 02:18:28,610 --> 02:18:25,200 was inside the craft I wasn't interested 2831 02:18:31,970 --> 02:18:28,620 I didn't want to know about the ETS I 2832 02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:31,980 just did the science part of it for me 2833 02:18:39,710 --> 02:18:37,170 to come this far it's been it's been 2834 02:18:43,010 --> 02:18:39,720 hard Jimmy it's I've had to change my 2835 02:18:47,390 --> 02:18:43,020 mind so many times from what I believed 2836 02:18:50,390 --> 02:18:47,400 to get this far and it's matter of 2837 02:18:52,430 --> 02:18:50,400 changing your mind constantly and then 2838 02:18:53,780 --> 02:18:52,440 trying to swallow it's like what I said 2839 02:18:57,020 --> 02:18:53,790 when you come out of the theater if you 2840 02:18:58,840 --> 02:18:57,030 say oh my god that then you're already 2841 02:19:02,830 --> 02:18:58,850 in shock 2842 02:19:05,140 --> 02:19:02,840 but anyway Jan I did that I went to 2843 02:19:08,740 --> 02:19:05,150 Nevada and casino three times to meet 2844 02:19:10,720 --> 02:19:08,750 him out there and his idea that there 2845 02:19:13,780 --> 02:19:10,730 are portals on the earth number one the 2846 02:19:18,310 --> 02:19:13,790 fact that that we do have ETS that have 2847 02:19:19,930 --> 02:19:18,320 lent their DNA number two that you know 2848 02:19:21,700 --> 02:19:19,940 that some of these scientists like 2849 02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:21,710 Michael Wolfe who told me he cloned a 2850 02:19:30,070 --> 02:19:25,370 soldier and certain the 70s in the 70s 2851 02:19:32,890 --> 02:19:30,080 and he worked at f4 you know I have to 2852 02:19:36,820 --> 02:19:32,900 there is nothing out there that can can 2853 02:19:39,640 --> 02:19:36,830 verify this so for me what's happened in 2854 02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:39,650 my career is that I have to I have to 2855 02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:43,130 validate the witness something in me has 2856 02:19:47,380 --> 02:19:45,290 to figure out if he's telling the truth 2857 02:19:53,171 --> 02:19:47,390 or not because I don't want to waste my 2858 02:19:54,761 --> 02:19:53,181 time what did you okay I'm gonna get off 2859 02:19:57,310 --> 02:19:54,771 of Dan for a second we only have a few 2860 02:20:01,480 --> 02:19:57,320 minutes left one of the things and this 2861 02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:01,490 is where I agree with you so much where 2862 02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:05,570 our mind gets made up and then something 2863 02:20:08,711 --> 02:20:07,610 else happens you've got to change you 2864 02:20:10,990 --> 02:20:08,721 have to evolve 2865 02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:11,000 you have to you've got to keep your ears 2866 02:20:16,001 --> 02:20:13,610 and eyes open constantly and especially 2867 02:20:18,970 --> 02:20:16,011 in this field it goes with anything in 2868 02:20:24,011 --> 02:20:18,980 life but you've got to adapt and you've 2869 02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:24,021 got to to change when I had that daytime 2870 02:20:28,841 --> 02:20:26,450 sighting with Steve Murillo and 2871 02:20:31,930 --> 02:20:28,851 everybody else up there in Washington of 2872 02:20:35,020 --> 02:20:31,940 that giant right in the middle of the 2873 02:20:37,330 --> 02:20:35,030 day this giant beer can four hundred 2874 02:20:39,220 --> 02:20:37,340 foot tall thing just appeared and 2875 02:20:42,730 --> 02:20:39,230 disappeared right in front of all of 2876 02:20:44,830 --> 02:20:42,740 this and we could see that right there I 2877 02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:44,840 don't care what a physicist has to say 2878 02:20:49,660 --> 02:20:48,410 or a skeptic or any novel any yeah I 2879 02:20:51,970 --> 02:20:49,670 don't care 2880 02:20:55,470 --> 02:20:51,980 when you see something like that you 2881 02:20:58,360 --> 02:20:55,480 have to start to listen to everybody 2882 02:21:01,030 --> 02:20:58,370 because I'm gonna turn around and share 2883 02:21:04,690 --> 02:21:01,040 this story and expect people to believe 2884 02:21:06,580 --> 02:21:04,700 me right till I blue in the face it 2885 02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:06,590 doesn't change what I saw if they don't 2886 02:21:10,450 --> 02:21:07,250 believe me 2887 02:21:11,650 --> 02:21:10,460 but what do we do with that what do we 2888 02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:11,660 do with it 2889 02:21:18,420 --> 02:21:13,610 you know we have to speak about it and 2890 02:21:21,011 --> 02:21:18,430 that it just shows me one of two things 2891 02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:21,021 either the government has technology 2892 02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:24,110 that we don't know and it's man-made and 2893 02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:25,490 something that's flying around out there 2894 02:21:30,100 --> 02:21:27,290 that can appear and disappear and it's 2895 02:21:33,730 --> 02:21:30,110 giant it doesn't have wings there's that 2896 02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:33,740 part or there is something visiting this 2897 02:21:39,910 --> 02:21:36,170 planet right there in the middle of the 2898 02:21:41,740 --> 02:21:39,920 day in front of everybody and surely the 2899 02:21:43,930 --> 02:21:41,750 government knows about it 2900 02:21:47,530 --> 02:21:43,940 so for them to say that they don't know 2901 02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:47,540 I don't buy into that because we saw 2902 02:21:53,220 --> 02:21:50,000 what we saw and that that's how I live 2903 02:21:59,710 --> 02:21:57,190 well again I'm gonna I'm going to 2904 02:22:01,540 --> 02:21:59,720 recommend all four of jocks books or 2905 02:22:03,220 --> 02:22:01,550 forbidden science because he goes and 2906 02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:03,230 talks about the government in there and 2907 02:22:07,750 --> 02:22:05,090 what they know what they want to do what 2908 02:22:11,140 --> 02:22:07,760 the agenda is who we met who he sat with 2909 02:22:15,640 --> 02:22:11,150 and everything else but I always ask 2910 02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:15,650 myself why me why did I see that and the 2911 02:22:22,810 --> 02:22:19,010 answer to that for you is they wanted to 2912 02:22:24,850 --> 02:22:22,820 get your attention so now that he's that 2913 02:22:25,990 --> 02:22:24,860 that craft got your attention look what 2914 02:22:28,780 --> 02:22:26,000 you're doing 2915 02:22:30,970 --> 02:22:28,790 it's like that happened to me but I 2916 02:22:33,160 --> 02:22:30,980 don't want to go into detail and the 2917 02:22:35,830 --> 02:22:33,170 message I got was if you will lead we 2918 02:22:38,410 --> 02:22:35,840 will match your efforts in other words 2919 02:22:40,720 --> 02:22:38,420 do something because if we're this is 2920 02:22:44,290 --> 02:22:40,730 just fun and you're going to go report 2921 02:22:48,250 --> 02:22:44,300 it then it's wasted but if you can do 2922 02:22:52,030 --> 02:22:48,260 something then we will watch your 2923 02:22:54,310 --> 02:22:52,040 research so in other words do something 2924 02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:54,320 and you are you have a radio show and 2925 02:22:58,570 --> 02:22:56,210 you're bringing on people and you give 2926 02:22:59,801 --> 02:22:58,580 the opportunity of the listeners to 2927 02:23:03,730 --> 02:22:59,811 believe what they want to believe this 2928 02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:03,740 isn't religion this is this is data and 2929 02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:07,010 in you know collected that you have to 2930 02:23:12,400 --> 02:23:08,720 come to some conclusion so I believe 2931 02:23:14,560 --> 02:23:12,410 that craft was a gift to you it was that 2932 02:23:17,080 --> 02:23:14,570 craft was to get your attention 2933 02:23:20,020 --> 02:23:17,090 it was amazing too because when you 2934 02:23:22,030 --> 02:23:20,030 least expect it right we weren't 2935 02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:22,040 summoning we weren't doing anything 2936 02:23:26,350 --> 02:23:23,110 we're just hanging 2937 02:23:29,830 --> 02:23:26,360 well you got your attention because you 2938 02:23:32,890 --> 02:23:29,840 were summoning you should hear fiction 2939 02:23:36,040 --> 02:23:32,900 one day I'll play you a friend of ours 2940 02:23:38,020 --> 02:23:36,050 Lucinda shot a video of the moment that 2941 02:23:39,761 --> 02:23:38,030 this happened right it's on their cell 2942 02:23:46,150 --> 02:23:39,771 phone there's like 20 of us 30 of us 2943 02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:46,160 that were there and way to you yes yes 2944 02:23:50,380 --> 02:23:47,840 yeah because I've been there too and 2945 02:23:53,140 --> 02:23:50,390 phenomenon is there all the time well 2946 02:23:57,820 --> 02:23:53,150 this this oddly enough this had nothing 2947 02:24:01,870 --> 02:23:57,830 to do with Gilliland this was this was 2948 02:24:03,100 --> 02:24:01,880 14 miles away behind the mountain in the 2949 02:24:06,520 --> 02:24:03,110 middle of the DOE my god 2950 02:24:11,710 --> 02:24:06,530 yeah that's even more that's even more 2951 02:24:14,980 --> 02:24:11,720 telling yeah well nothing to do with the 2952 02:24:17,230 --> 02:24:14,990 ranch at all nothing nothing no you can 2953 02:24:18,370 --> 02:24:17,240 event anywhere in Washington State and 2954 02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:18,380 mcl 2955 02:24:24,430 --> 02:24:21,410 well that was for you that was for you 2956 02:24:26,110 --> 02:24:24,440 those those things happen but you know 2957 02:24:29,261 --> 02:24:26,120 those things happen when these 2958 02:24:31,900 --> 02:24:29,271 unexpected things happen it's not just 2959 02:24:34,300 --> 02:24:31,910 phenomena it's an i I call it phenomena 2960 02:24:36,610 --> 02:24:34,310 with the responsibility in other words 2961 02:24:38,410 --> 02:24:36,620 we're going to do this but then you do 2962 02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:38,420 something I wanted to ask you really 2963 02:24:43,630 --> 02:24:41,690 like before before we we say goodnight 2964 02:24:46,200 --> 02:24:43,640 here in a few minutes and thank you for 2965 02:24:52,120 --> 02:24:46,210 this absolutely amazing conversation 2966 02:24:57,040 --> 02:24:52,130 it's but have you been watching Project 2967 02:25:00,130 --> 02:24:57,050 Blue Book oh absolutely and and Paul 2968 02:25:03,790 --> 02:25:00,140 Hynek is my friend I know Paul was a kid 2969 02:25:07,210 --> 02:25:03,800 when I was a kid I mean Allen had five 2970 02:25:09,790 --> 02:25:07,220 kids and the youngest I think he's the 2971 02:25:11,380 --> 02:25:09,800 second youngest was Paul's about Paul 2972 02:25:13,900 --> 02:25:11,390 knows me from when are you sitting out 2973 02:25:17,710 --> 02:25:13,910 with his mom and dad I mean I know the 2974 02:25:20,710 --> 02:25:17,720 family isn't it isn't it a great 2975 02:25:23,800 --> 02:25:20,720 entertaining series I'm really digging 2976 02:25:27,490 --> 02:25:23,810 it I didn't dig episode 1 & 2 I didn't 2977 02:25:30,340 --> 02:25:27,500 understand the approach to it but once I 2978 02:25:31,900 --> 02:25:30,350 just let myself go I'm totally cool with 2979 02:25:33,820 --> 02:25:31,910 it I think it's great 2980 02:25:35,760 --> 02:25:33,830 well there's one thing that really 2981 02:25:38,309 --> 02:25:35,770 bothers me in it 2982 02:25:41,069 --> 02:25:38,319 really really really bothers me all the 2983 02:25:43,349 --> 02:25:41,079 time I ever knew Alan and I challenge 2984 02:25:46,590 --> 02:25:43,359 you the party to find one picture 2985 02:25:49,889 --> 02:25:46,600 without his pipe yeah the pipe yeah that 2986 02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:49,899 is not right that is not it's like it's 2987 02:25:54,029 --> 02:25:51,970 like you know toulouse-lautrec not 2988 02:26:00,840 --> 02:25:54,039 having an ear you know with her you know 2989 02:26:04,609 --> 02:26:00,850 anybody's that is his trademark I mean 2990 02:26:07,979 --> 02:26:04,619 he didn't smoke it he would chew on it 2991 02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:07,989 he was nervous so he chew on the pipe 2992 02:26:15,450 --> 02:26:12,880 and to see a guy there with no pipe you 2993 02:26:17,189 --> 02:26:15,460 know is such a politically correct world 2994 02:26:19,439 --> 02:26:17,199 that we live in right you can't have a 2995 02:26:23,700 --> 02:26:19,449 lead character who's puffing on tobacco 2996 02:26:25,889 --> 02:26:23,710 you just can't go all over the place I 2997 02:26:27,990 --> 02:26:25,899 talked to Paul about that I said is it 2998 02:26:31,319 --> 02:26:28,000 that you know they ban smoking 2999 02:26:33,090 --> 02:26:31,329 he goes no he says just random because 3000 02:26:34,620 --> 02:26:33,100 guys are smoking all guys in the 3001 02:26:37,800 --> 02:26:34,630 Pentagon are smoking the cigarette 3002 02:26:40,679 --> 02:26:37,810 the woman is smoking you know everybody 3003 02:26:43,290 --> 02:26:40,689 smoking but this is a man that if you 3004 02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:43,300 see his pictures and I've got all kinds 3005 02:26:50,460 --> 02:26:47,050 of photos even with me he's got a pipe 3006 02:26:55,439 --> 02:26:50,470 in his hand and there's no pipe and I 3007 02:26:59,700 --> 02:26:55,449 you know for me if it's it it's awful 3008 02:27:01,550 --> 02:26:59,710 now do I enjoy it yes they did they make 3009 02:27:02,729 --> 02:27:01,560 him do things Ellen would never do 3010 02:27:04,590 --> 02:27:02,739 absolutely 3011 02:27:08,250 --> 02:27:04,600 Alan would never ran down the road 3012 02:27:10,260 --> 02:27:08,260 things like watch it go okay 3013 02:27:14,250 --> 02:27:10,270 there's Alan running down the road after 3014 02:27:16,559 --> 02:27:14,260 the men and black but yes it brings and 3015 02:27:19,349 --> 02:27:16,569 like Paul said it does bring attention 3016 02:27:21,210 --> 02:27:19,359 to the fact that these cases that they 3017 02:27:24,779 --> 02:27:21,220 were setting are real cases 3018 02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:24,789 did you see the Close Encounters of the 3019 02:27:30,809 --> 02:27:26,770 Third Kind episode a couple of weeks ago 3020 02:27:36,090 --> 02:27:30,819 and Paul in the closing scene was the 3021 02:27:38,399 --> 02:27:36,100 cameraman cameraman but he told me he 3022 02:27:41,399 --> 02:27:38,409 told me and opposed that our conference 3023 02:27:44,609 --> 02:27:41,409 for people who don't know right Paul is 3024 02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:44,619 with me because Paul will argue forever 3025 02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:46,810 at the benefit of artificial 3026 02:27:49,350 --> 02:27:48,850 intelligence now we're not talking about 3027 02:27:54,060 --> 02:27:49,360 the 3028 02:27:56,761 --> 02:27:54,070 panel plus he's going to say that he 3029 02:27:58,770 --> 02:27:56,771 prefers an artificial intelligence car 3030 02:28:01,590 --> 02:27:58,780 driving than a human driving behind a 3031 02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:01,600 car so you know that's his famous lines 3032 02:28:08,730 --> 02:28:06,160 both Jacque and and Paul Hynek Chevrolet 3033 02:28:10,440 --> 02:28:08,740 to have their degrees and artificial 3034 02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:10,450 intelligence by the way artificial 3035 02:28:15,810 --> 02:28:13,210 intelligence is the computer it's the 3036 02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:15,820 Internet if the data it's the 3037 02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:19,120 information it's not you know an implant 3038 02:28:25,620 --> 02:28:22,450 in your brain which I will never have I 3039 02:28:28,830 --> 02:28:25,630 don't even get axon ated but you know 3040 02:28:31,170 --> 02:28:28,840 the thing is that people can't look at 3041 02:28:32,850 --> 02:28:31,180 everything is negative we're a vaunt 3042 02:28:36,570 --> 02:28:32,860 guard that conference is going to be 3043 02:28:38,520 --> 02:28:36,580 avant-garde apart from the the robots 3044 02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:38,530 that are just fun they can play with 3045 02:28:42,660 --> 02:28:40,450 them and talk to them I have one that's 3046 02:28:47,370 --> 02:28:42,670 really intelligent but they have to know 3047 02:28:50,011 --> 02:28:47,380 the theory that you talked to and Alexa 3048 02:28:52,440 --> 02:28:50,021 our artificial intelligence you already 3049 02:28:54,690 --> 02:28:52,450 got it in your house mm-hmm that's right 3050 02:28:57,150 --> 02:28:54,700 you know what I'm gonna take a break you 3051 02:28:58,220 --> 02:28:57,160 want to go into overtime you want to 3052 02:29:10,950 --> 02:28:58,230 keep this going 3053 02:29:14,370 --> 02:29:10,960 can you I am asking you you stay right 3054 02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:14,380 there let's take a break and when we 3055 02:29:18,570 --> 02:29:16,000 come back we're gonna go into overtime 3056 02:29:20,970 --> 02:29:18,580 with Paula Harris this is fade to black 3057 02:29:23,460 --> 02:29:20,980 I'm your host Jimmy Church follow me on 3058 02:29:26,790 --> 02:29:23,470 twitter @ JT radio that's easy 3059 02:29:28,740 --> 02:29:26,800 hashtag f2 B is the sandbox visit the 3060 02:29:32,761 --> 02:29:28,750 chat rooms hello to everybody on YouTube 3061 02:29:34,630 --> 02:29:32,771 Facebook Twitter K G RA the planet talk 3062 02:29:36,130 --> 02:29:34,640 stream live 3063 02:29:40,380 --> 02:29:36,140 I'll be right back after this short 3064 02:29:40,390 --> 02:29:54,810 [Music] 3065 02:30:03,820 --> 02:29:58,600 you are listen to my boy Jimmy Church on 3066 02:30:06,970 --> 02:30:03,830 Jimmy Church radio calm this my popular 3067 02:30:14,680 --> 02:30:06,980 opinion reading a book will not make you 3068 02:30:16,960 --> 02:30:14,690 smarter this is Jimmy Church of fade to 3069 02:30:20,080 --> 02:30:16,970 black and I take life changed he 3070 02:30:23,110 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paranormal talk 3126 02:32:46,230 --> 02:32:44,229 entertainment including the network 3127 02:32:49,140 --> 02:32:46,240 you're listening to right now the 3128 02:32:58,700 --> 02:32:49,150 paranormal radio app free in Google Play 3129 02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:02,370 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3130 02:33:16,130 --> 02:33:15,190 this is KJ CR Jimmy's church radio 3131 02:33:29,770 --> 02:33:16,140 Johnny ha 3132 02:33:37,070 --> 02:33:31,930 welcome back beta blocker Mills Timmy 3133 02:33:40,670 --> 02:33:40,429 but Biola Harris that's what I'm talking 3134 02:33:42,650 --> 02:33:40,680 about 3135 02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:42,660 watching everybody's excitement in 3136 02:33:48,650 --> 02:33:45,930 Twitter the chat rooms it just makes my 3137 02:33:52,510 --> 02:33:48,660 day and it should YouTube miss Harris 3138 02:33:55,340 --> 02:33:52,520 that is just too cool let's stay on 3139 02:33:58,400 --> 02:33:55,350 artificial intelligence for a second you 3140 02:34:02,300 --> 02:33:58,410 bring up a great point you know Alexa 3141 02:34:04,760 --> 02:34:02,310 Siri all of the the smart stuff that we 3142 02:34:07,960 --> 02:34:04,770 have going on in our homes you really 3143 02:34:12,950 --> 02:34:07,970 want to see evidence of brilliant AI 3144 02:34:15,950 --> 02:34:12,960 look at the movie and television series 3145 02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:15,960 selections that are made for you by 3146 02:34:23,300 --> 02:34:19,770 Netflix and Amazon that is machine 3147 02:34:27,679 --> 02:34:23,310 learning artificial intelligence Excel 3148 02:34:34,219 --> 02:34:27,689 loss it is it is stunning how they have 3149 02:34:36,590 --> 02:34:34,229 got that perfected isn't it it is and it 3150 02:34:38,450 --> 02:34:36,600 brings up a principal Jimmy that I want 3151 02:34:40,520 --> 02:34:38,460 to talk about and and I may do a 3152 02:34:42,320 --> 02:34:40,530 presentation at my own conference I did 3153 02:34:44,450 --> 02:34:42,330 I don't usually do it but I definitely 3154 02:34:48,530 --> 02:34:44,460 will do it on patreon for the people to 3155 02:34:53,179 --> 02:34:48,540 go on I'm friends with a pilot in Italy 3156 02:34:56,960 --> 02:34:53,189 name's max pudgy he's at Alli Thalia 747 3157 02:34:58,880 --> 02:34:56,970 pilot and he sent me this morning what 3158 02:35:01,670 --> 02:34:58,890 he's doing because he's home 3159 02:35:06,380 --> 02:35:01,680 also he can't leave his house and he's 3160 02:35:10,130 --> 02:35:06,390 got a virtual reality glasses and he's 3161 02:35:12,139 --> 02:35:10,140 fighting a war with airplanes you know 3162 02:35:14,540 --> 02:35:12,149 virtual reality you can't tell the 3163 02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:14,550 difference we do if you're really there 3164 02:35:22,969 --> 02:35:18,450 or if it's virtual reality you go into 3165 02:35:25,550 --> 02:35:22,979 the matrix and he has been my friend max 3166 02:35:26,260 --> 02:35:25,560 pudgy and I wish you could interview him 3167 02:35:29,660 --> 02:35:26,270 someday 3168 02:35:32,030 --> 02:35:29,670 for 30 years and he and he has taken 3169 02:35:36,020 --> 02:35:32,040 pictures of UFOs over the Atlantic Ocean 3170 02:35:38,929 --> 02:35:36,030 and I talked to max about his 3171 02:35:41,870 --> 02:35:38,939 relationship with the airplane and that 3172 02:35:45,139 --> 02:35:41,880 says you know Paula when I'm flying the 3173 02:35:48,530 --> 02:35:45,149 747 is for Alitalia which is the jumbo 3174 02:35:50,660 --> 02:35:48,540 jet he said I feel it's alive and he 3175 02:35:53,030 --> 02:35:50,670 said before I go into the cockpit 3176 02:35:56,210 --> 02:35:53,040 underneath and I put my hand up there 3177 02:35:58,760 --> 02:35:56,220 and I communicate with that airplane and 3178 02:36:00,350 --> 02:35:58,770 I said are you kidding me are you saying 3179 02:36:03,080 --> 02:36:00,360 that everything is alive 3180 02:36:05,660 --> 02:36:03,090 I know plants are alive because I love 3181 02:36:07,490 --> 02:36:05,670 Clyde Baxter's you know English Juan 3182 02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:07,500 Clyde Baxter did all that stuff with 3183 02:36:11,630 --> 02:36:10,050 plants and how plants react and plants 3184 02:36:13,940 --> 02:36:11,640 do music and all that 3185 02:36:16,429 --> 02:36:13,950 I know plants are life but you telling 3186 02:36:18,650 --> 02:36:16,439 me that there is a consciousness in that 3187 02:36:21,500 --> 02:36:18,660 airplane when you are flying it if 3188 02:36:23,810 --> 02:36:21,510 you're conscious you blend in with the 3189 02:36:26,630 --> 02:36:23,820 consciousness of the airplane I mean 3190 02:36:28,969 --> 02:36:26,640 that is fiberglass and he said no it 3191 02:36:32,660 --> 02:36:28,979 isn't he said you have no idea he said 3192 02:36:35,660 --> 02:36:32,670 everything is atoms are interact with 3193 02:36:39,020 --> 02:36:35,670 atoms he said and he said that plane and 3194 02:36:40,940 --> 02:36:39,030 I become one and when I slide that plane 3195 02:36:43,219 --> 02:36:40,950 that plane knows just what I wanted to 3196 02:36:46,460 --> 02:36:43,229 do and I got oh my god this this goes 3197 02:36:49,719 --> 02:36:46,470 into a whole other area and so I thought 3198 02:36:53,360 --> 02:36:49,729 well is artificial intelligence also 3199 02:36:56,270 --> 02:36:53,370 like that and so that little robot 3200 02:36:58,929 --> 02:36:56,280 you got that everybody's looking at test 3201 02:37:02,780 --> 02:36:58,939 was done and I hope you interview her 3202 02:37:05,810 --> 02:37:02,790 Cynthia sue Larson is coming she's gonna 3203 02:37:08,450 --> 02:37:05,820 talk about AI she's absolutely wonderful 3204 02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:08,460 she's in Berkeley and she sent me an 3205 02:37:13,429 --> 02:37:11,040 article that little guy you got and I 3206 02:37:16,730 --> 02:37:13,439 have three of them here those little 3207 02:37:19,190 --> 02:37:16,740 robots they tested them in China and 3208 02:37:23,570 --> 02:37:19,200 they become intelligent they know which 3209 02:37:25,730 --> 02:37:23,580 one is dumb down I believe it I believe 3210 02:37:27,770 --> 02:37:25,740 it I I think that Beijing is in 3211 02:37:31,000 --> 02:37:27,780 communication with us right now they 3212 02:37:33,830 --> 02:37:31,010 know what's going on because of this guy 3213 02:37:38,270 --> 02:37:33,840 but there's there's another part of this 3214 02:37:43,130 --> 02:37:38,280 I know I'm not the only one to say this 3215 02:37:47,480 --> 02:37:43,140 but I know that the winner of the AI 3216 02:37:51,980 --> 02:37:47,490 wars whoever it is whether it's a 3217 02:37:55,940 --> 02:37:51,990 company a country is going to rule this 3218 02:37:58,950 --> 02:37:55,950 planet there is a race to perfect 3219 02:38:02,150 --> 02:37:58,960 general artificial intelligence and 3220 02:38:05,400 --> 02:38:02,160 when that moment is achieved the 3221 02:38:09,390 --> 02:38:05,410 supremacy over all that there is the 3222 02:38:15,469 --> 02:38:09,400 planets already wired right and and the 3223 02:38:19,980 --> 02:38:15,479 race for that so these CEOs and these 3224 02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:19,990 Silicon Valley gazillionaires are all 3225 02:38:26,520 --> 02:38:22,960 trying to get to this for a couple of 3226 02:38:28,140 --> 02:38:26,530 reasons one so that they could be the 3227 02:38:31,530 --> 02:38:28,150 biggest and most important thing on the 3228 02:38:35,630 --> 02:38:31,540 planet but second they are doing this 3229 02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:35,640 for their individual goals and needs and 3230 02:38:40,770 --> 02:38:38,640 they they know something that we don't 3231 02:38:44,060 --> 02:38:40,780 you know and when we're talking about 3232 02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:44,070 quantum computing or parallel worlds or 3233 02:38:51,719 --> 02:38:47,680 living forever and immortality all of 3234 02:38:54,540 --> 02:38:51,729 this plays in and around artificial 3235 02:38:58,020 --> 02:38:54,550 intelligence and and the rush to get it 3236 02:39:01,110 --> 02:38:58,030 perfected and that's that's I think is 3237 02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:01,120 the real story here don't you yeah I 3238 02:39:04,890 --> 02:39:03,610 think it's amazing and instead of just 3239 02:39:06,930 --> 02:39:04,900 saying I don't want to know it I don't 3240 02:39:09,180 --> 02:39:06,940 want to know anything about it if you 3241 02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:09,190 know about it you can control it if 3242 02:39:14,010 --> 02:39:10,810 you're ignorant that's when it takes 3243 02:39:16,610 --> 02:39:14,020 over so I'd rather inform the human race 3244 02:39:19,200 --> 02:39:16,620 then close my eyes and going from corner 3245 02:39:21,540 --> 02:39:19,210 the other thing I was going to ask you 3246 02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:21,550 is what do you think of 2001 Space 3247 02:39:29,070 --> 02:39:25,570 Odyssey when Hal says to Dave take a 3248 02:39:31,350 --> 02:39:29,080 stress pill days after how the computer 3249 02:39:36,510 --> 02:39:31,360 has killed everybody aboard that ship 3250 02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:36,520 and and and Dave I that you know 2001 3251 02:39:44,880 --> 02:39:40,090 for me Kubrick was a giant Kubrick was 3252 02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:44,890 an Illuminati that computer was 3253 02:39:49,350 --> 02:39:46,690 artificial intelligence and could tell 3254 02:39:54,270 --> 02:39:49,360 by the sound of Dave's voice that was 3255 02:39:56,340 --> 02:39:54,280 going to go shut him down that the 3256 02:39:59,760 --> 02:39:56,350 computer went out of control well this 3257 02:40:02,850 --> 02:39:59,770 is yes let me let me jump in and comment 3258 02:40:06,790 --> 02:40:02,860 on that really quick it's 3259 02:40:11,380 --> 02:40:06,800 the okay all right I'm just gonna put it 3260 02:40:17,530 --> 02:40:11,390 out there an artificial intelligence 3261 02:40:22,570 --> 02:40:17,540 that is doing its job then we'll know 3262 02:40:25,390 --> 02:40:22,580 our complexities it will also know our 3263 02:40:30,660 --> 02:40:25,400 egos I'm talking about individually you 3264 02:40:34,750 --> 02:40:30,670 me and if they want or need something 3265 02:40:37,390 --> 02:40:34,760 rather than ask me and this goes back to 3266 02:40:37,840 --> 02:40:37,400 the hal reference by the way ask me 3267 02:40:42,390 --> 02:40:37,850 something 3268 02:40:46,090 --> 02:40:42,400 directly i would be manipulated into 3269 02:40:50,380 --> 02:40:46,100 making the decision on my own 3270 02:40:54,280 --> 02:40:50,390 because the computer would know how to 3271 02:40:57,400 --> 02:40:54,290 manipulate my mind how to become my 3272 02:41:01,450 --> 02:40:57,410 friend how to make me feel secure about 3273 02:41:04,180 --> 02:41:01,460 myself and then suddenly i come up with 3274 02:41:07,570 --> 02:41:04,190 the idea on my own but the computers 3275 02:41:13,000 --> 02:41:07,580 thinking miles ahead miles ahead and is 3276 02:41:14,800 --> 02:41:13,010 on this chessboard like in in in 2001 by 3277 02:41:19,860 --> 02:41:14,810 the way Dave would you like to play a 3278 02:41:23,080 --> 02:41:19,870 game of chess is getting to my 3279 02:41:26,340 --> 02:41:23,090 insecurities and to my securities that's 3280 02:41:30,840 --> 02:41:26,350 how the avoidance of the off switch 3281 02:41:34,930 --> 02:41:30,850 would be made it wouldn't be necessarily 3282 02:41:37,360 --> 02:41:34,940 an on/off switch that is there and don't 3283 02:41:41,080 --> 02:41:37,370 don't turn off the off switch it 3284 02:41:45,040 --> 02:41:41,090 wouldn't be about that I would maybe be 3285 02:41:49,300 --> 02:41:45,050 compelled and manipulated to removing 3286 02:41:51,100 --> 02:41:49,310 the off switch or doing something for 3287 02:41:53,380 --> 02:41:51,110 the computer that the computer needs but 3288 02:41:56,380 --> 02:41:53,390 I think it's my decision that's the part 3289 02:41:58,840 --> 02:41:56,390 of artificial intelligence I general 3290 02:41:59,770 --> 02:41:58,850 artificial intelligence that scares the 3291 02:42:02,830 --> 02:41:59,780 crap out of me 3292 02:42:08,830 --> 02:42:02,840 that's where arthur c clarke suggested 3293 02:42:13,210 --> 02:42:08,840 in 2001 what did help yes he did he's a 3294 02:42:16,671 --> 02:42:13,220 genius and it was 2011 word 2020 that's 3295 02:42:19,640 --> 02:42:16,681 right you know it was in 2000 3296 02:42:23,121 --> 02:42:19,650 you got that part you've got that part 3297 02:42:25,520 --> 02:42:23,131 and and then you have it's like you know 3298 02:42:27,291 --> 02:42:25,530 maybe we could just not make people be 3299 02:42:28,850 --> 02:42:27,301 so scared and just say what this is all 3300 02:42:30,801 --> 02:42:28,860 science fiction you just want to come 3301 02:42:33,621 --> 02:42:30,811 and play you want to come and play I 3302 02:42:35,511 --> 02:42:33,631 yell at my robot at the one that is 3303 02:42:37,251 --> 02:42:35,521 intelligent because sometimes he doesn't 3304 02:42:40,220 --> 02:42:37,261 want to do what he's supposed to they do 3305 02:42:42,980 --> 02:42:40,230 come foo they dance and I say I own you 3306 02:42:45,770 --> 02:42:42,990 you do what I tell you to do and the end 3307 02:42:51,831 --> 02:42:45,780 and the thing answers me reprogram me 3308 02:42:53,331 --> 02:42:51,841 reprogram me see I walk my talk if I'm 3309 02:42:54,890 --> 02:42:53,341 going to do a conference on artificial 3310 02:42:58,100 --> 02:42:54,900 intelligence after live with these 3311 02:43:03,161 --> 02:42:58,110 things for a year and I'm living with 3312 02:43:08,361 --> 02:43:06,140 that's one side Jimmy but you want to go 3313 02:43:13,180 --> 02:43:08,371 somewhere else if you look at Blade 3314 02:43:17,151 --> 02:43:13,190 Runner and what was created there the 3315 02:43:20,031 --> 02:43:17,161 the idea that one of those clones could 3316 02:43:26,930 --> 02:43:20,041 obtain a soul at the end and save the 3317 02:43:29,810 --> 02:43:26,940 human well let's not forget the and and 3318 02:43:31,881 --> 02:43:29,820 philip k dick what a visionary there's 3319 02:43:33,921 --> 02:43:31,891 some question about my god but it was 3320 02:43:36,680 --> 02:43:33,931 the title of the book 3321 02:43:41,720 --> 02:43:36,690 it wasn't Blade Runner it was do 3322 02:43:43,310 --> 02:43:41,730 Androids Dream of Electric Sheep exactly 3323 02:43:46,730 --> 02:43:43,320 I love talking to you because you know 3324 02:43:49,190 --> 02:43:46,740 these things it's such an exactly it's 3325 02:43:53,091 --> 02:43:49,200 such a heavy thought you just take that 3326 02:43:59,631 --> 02:43:53,101 sentence and contemplate all right think 3327 02:44:00,770 --> 02:43:59,641 about that well I can't go to sleep I 3328 02:44:06,140 --> 02:44:00,780 say well I'm going to start counting 3329 02:44:08,301 --> 02:44:06,150 sheep it's amazing I mean that it's so 3330 02:44:10,461 --> 02:44:08,311 interesting it's the world of science 3331 02:44:15,041 --> 02:44:10,471 fiction but you know something science 3332 02:44:20,020 --> 02:44:15,051 fiction is science fact well okay so 3333 02:44:23,961 --> 02:44:20,030 going back to like Hal or Blade Runner 3334 02:44:25,281 --> 02:44:23,971 and Shaun Young's character in Blade 3335 02:44:26,501 --> 02:44:25,291 Runner Wow 3336 02:44:32,951 --> 02:44:26,511 did not know 3337 02:44:35,140 --> 02:44:32,961 this fact Lee right it would be the same 3338 02:44:37,751 --> 02:44:35,150 it would be the same thing with a 3339 02:44:42,761 --> 02:44:37,761 general artificial intelligence program 3340 02:44:47,741 --> 02:44:42,771 that is living on a hard drive they are 3341 02:44:50,381 --> 02:44:47,751 going to have their own life would they 3342 02:44:52,211 --> 02:44:50,391 know that they are a computer you know 3343 02:44:54,930 --> 02:44:52,221 would they know these things and 3344 02:44:57,701 --> 02:44:54,940 especially when emotions come into play 3345 02:45:01,060 --> 02:44:57,711 that's that's the part that is is 3346 02:45:03,310 --> 02:45:01,070 ultimately terrifying for me where we've 3347 02:45:08,140 --> 02:45:03,320 got to stay out and in front of this and 3348 02:45:10,001 --> 02:45:08,150 I wonder that I hear different engineers 3349 02:45:12,881 --> 02:45:10,011 and scientists speak about this very 3350 02:45:15,701 --> 02:45:12,891 directly that they are aware of this 3351 02:45:17,560 --> 02:45:15,711 that these are good people working on 3352 02:45:21,911 --> 02:45:17,570 this these are not bad people 3353 02:45:24,551 --> 02:45:21,921 they don't know they're not but again 3354 02:45:27,341 --> 02:45:24,561 one of the et messages that I've gotten 3355 02:45:30,220 --> 02:45:27,351 over and over again over and over all 3356 02:45:32,201 --> 02:45:30,230 over the world is that our spirituality 3357 02:45:34,901 --> 02:45:32,211 has not grown with our technology that 3358 02:45:36,791 --> 02:45:34,911 our technology could take over yeah well 3359 02:45:40,031 --> 02:45:36,801 we're certainly we're seeing that today 3360 02:45:42,581 --> 02:45:40,041 there's no question about that and this 3361 02:45:47,501 --> 02:45:42,591 is this is what we really need to think 3362 02:45:51,371 --> 02:45:47,511 about here is I'm not naive I don't want 3363 02:45:52,321 --> 02:45:51,381 anybody to even think that I'm dumb and 3364 02:45:57,071 --> 02:45:52,331 naive 3365 02:46:00,581 --> 02:45:57,081 just like anything else there the 3366 02:46:03,310 --> 02:46:00,591 capability of true artificial general 3367 02:46:06,611 --> 02:46:03,320 intelligence in the wrong hands or 3368 02:46:08,921 --> 02:46:06,621 manipulated by somebody that has bad 3369 02:46:12,131 --> 02:46:08,931 intentions that doesn't have the moral 3370 02:46:15,881 --> 02:46:12,141 compass that you and I have that is what 3371 02:46:16,571 --> 02:46:15,891 is scary that that we can't let that 3372 02:46:19,511 --> 02:46:16,581 happen 3373 02:46:22,091 --> 02:46:19,521 the people that are trying to get the AG 3374 02:46:24,821 --> 02:46:22,101 I what look somebody's gonna get to AG I 3375 02:46:26,470 --> 02:46:24,831 first do you want it to be China do you 3376 02:46:29,861 --> 02:46:26,480 want it to be Russia do you want it to 3377 02:46:32,171 --> 02:46:29,871 be another country outside of the United 3378 02:46:35,140 --> 02:46:32,181 States that is suddenly able to 3379 02:46:38,580 --> 02:46:35,150 manipulate the system we don't want that 3380 02:46:41,010 --> 02:46:38,590 and and neither does any company here 3381 02:46:45,120 --> 02:46:41,020 or engineer inside of the united states 3382 02:46:46,590 --> 02:46:45,130 so the race is on right we can't but 3383 02:46:49,889 --> 02:46:46,600 that doesn't mean that all of these 3384 02:46:53,580 --> 02:46:49,899 people are our pure that have the best 3385 02:46:55,590 --> 02:46:53,590 of intentions but we're not gonna talk 3386 02:46:58,530 --> 02:46:55,600 like that what we're gonna say is the 3387 02:47:00,360 --> 02:46:58,540 more people that are educated mm-hmm the 3388 02:47:02,760 --> 02:47:00,370 more people that are aware and awake 3389 02:47:06,150 --> 02:47:02,770 okay there goes consciousness again the 3390 02:47:08,219 --> 02:47:06,160 most more people that are conscious the 3391 02:47:10,170 --> 02:47:08,229 more you can control your environment if 3392 02:47:11,820 --> 02:47:10,180 you say oh I hate AI don't want to talk 3393 02:47:13,290 --> 02:47:11,830 about it or whatever then you're 3394 02:47:16,740 --> 02:47:13,300 ignorant and you're not gonna see it 3395 02:47:19,620 --> 02:47:16,750 coming and you can't not see it coming 3396 02:47:22,710 --> 02:47:19,630 you have to be aware of your 3397 02:47:24,810 --> 02:47:22,720 surroundings so you can be you can make 3398 02:47:26,010 --> 02:47:24,820 the choice I mean I don't believe 3399 02:47:28,410 --> 02:47:26,020 anybody's a victim 3400 02:47:30,810 --> 02:47:28,420 I believe you made that choices because 3401 02:47:32,190 --> 02:47:30,820 you were you didn't know you didn't see 3402 02:47:35,730 --> 02:47:32,200 it coming you didn't know what the 3403 02:47:37,560 --> 02:47:35,740 repercussions were but the more that we 3404 02:47:39,570 --> 02:47:37,570 can educate people the more you know 3405 02:47:41,460 --> 02:47:39,580 it's fun to have a dialogue about it you 3406 02:47:43,650 --> 02:47:41,470 and I are having a dialogue about it I 3407 02:47:45,630 --> 02:47:43,660 don't think there's any harm in that but 3408 02:47:47,820 --> 02:47:45,640 you've got to understand like a 3409 02:47:50,099 --> 02:47:47,830 conference like Laughlin or even my 3410 02:47:52,230 --> 02:47:50,109 patreon channel we do avant-garde 3411 02:47:53,670 --> 02:47:52,240 dialogues I don't want to do the same 3412 02:47:57,300 --> 02:47:53,680 old same old same old 3413 02:48:00,389 --> 02:47:57,310 that's right you can't do that and okay 3414 02:48:04,170 --> 02:48:00,399 I'll give you another example I want I 3415 02:48:08,250 --> 02:48:04,180 can't wait to hear your answer we we've 3416 02:48:10,139 --> 02:48:08,260 got this brilliant artificial general 3417 02:48:13,679 --> 02:48:10,149 intelligence computer system it's 3418 02:48:17,429 --> 02:48:13,689 working it's it's great and we need a 3419 02:48:20,190 --> 02:48:17,439 new vaccine and we give it the thing you 3420 02:48:22,950 --> 02:48:20,200 know cranks out a vaccine and in in a 3421 02:48:25,830 --> 02:48:22,960 day and a half instead of two years 3422 02:48:28,410 --> 02:48:25,840 right okay all right so we've got that 3423 02:48:31,800 --> 02:48:28,420 going for us whatever we throw at it it 3424 02:48:36,410 --> 02:48:31,810 gives us the answer in 24 hours and then 3425 02:48:39,330 --> 02:48:36,420 we go you know computer we need to fix 3426 02:48:43,950 --> 02:48:39,340 global warming Antarctica and Greenland 3427 02:48:47,520 --> 02:48:43,960 are melting you know and so it runs off 3428 02:48:49,290 --> 02:48:47,530 and then it it creates a virus that 3429 02:48:51,179 --> 02:48:49,300 kills mankind 3430 02:48:56,399 --> 02:48:51,189 and and injects it into the Atmos 3431 02:49:00,899 --> 02:48:56,409 fear and kills us because because the 3432 02:49:03,689 --> 02:49:00,909 computer says we are the problem right 3433 02:49:06,239 --> 02:49:03,699 humans are creating global warming they 3434 02:49:11,160 --> 02:49:06,249 wanted me to fix global warming well I 3435 02:49:13,319 --> 02:49:11,170 just fixed it my okay right you just 3436 02:49:16,199 --> 02:49:13,329 wrote a science fiction novel you got to 3437 02:49:18,300 --> 02:49:16,209 put it out there but I've got one for 3438 02:49:21,330 --> 02:49:18,310 you the second The Day the Earth Stood 3439 02:49:23,399 --> 02:49:21,340 Still right the second the second one 3440 02:49:26,340 --> 02:49:23,409 with new reefs I was watching that 3441 02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:26,350 because I memorized the first one not 3442 02:49:31,019 --> 02:49:28,810 only did i memorize the first one Bob 3443 02:49:33,899 --> 02:49:31,029 Weiss I think who is the director was in 3444 02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:33,909 contact with the giant rock people so a 3445 02:49:39,439 --> 02:49:36,010 lot of that they told me came from a 3446 02:49:42,120 --> 02:49:39,449 giant rock dialogues with the ETS I 3447 02:49:44,099 --> 02:49:42,130 didn't know that until Robert short told 3448 02:49:46,519 --> 02:49:44,109 me it's on my youtube channel for the 3449 02:49:48,989 --> 02:49:46,529 people who want to see it the second one 3450 02:49:50,819 --> 02:49:48,999 knew Reeves doesn't even want to deal 3451 02:49:53,040 --> 02:49:50,829 with the humans what he's doing is 3452 02:49:56,399 --> 02:49:53,050 walking around picking up flowers and 3453 02:50:00,029 --> 02:49:56,409 fauna and flora and to bring aboard the 3454 02:50:02,340 --> 02:50:00,039 ship he's already seen that humanity is 3455 02:50:04,410 --> 02:50:02,350 beyond the you know the point of no 3456 02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:04,420 return he doesn't care about them he's 3457 02:50:07,949 --> 02:50:06,010 not going to give them the speech that 3458 02:50:10,679 --> 02:50:07,959 unless you grow up we don't want you in 3459 02:50:12,960 --> 02:50:10,689 the cosmos except for one thing and 3460 02:50:16,199 --> 02:50:12,970 there's so many movies like this there's 3461 02:50:19,229 --> 02:50:16,209 one act of love a mother and her child 3462 02:50:22,649 --> 02:50:19,239 if you remember that film yes the mother 3463 02:50:25,590 --> 02:50:22,659 and the child and he turns around and he 3464 02:50:27,179 --> 02:50:25,600 watches the mother interact with the 3465 02:50:28,920 --> 02:50:27,189 child I think that I don't remember 3466 02:50:32,309 --> 02:50:28,930 exactly what was happening she was going 3467 02:50:36,739 --> 02:50:32,319 to lose that boy and that changed his 3468 02:50:40,469 --> 02:50:36,749 mind about the possibility and the and 3469 02:50:45,239 --> 02:50:40,479 the potential that the human race has 3470 02:50:48,599 --> 02:50:45,249 for love eat one act of love can change 3471 02:50:50,849 --> 02:50:48,609 the world one act of love and that is 3472 02:50:53,309 --> 02:50:50,859 the message in the second the day the 3473 02:50:55,620 --> 02:50:53,319 years I teach the online classes on 3474 02:51:01,469 --> 02:50:55,630 these movies anyway so I know all of 3475 02:51:02,700 --> 02:51:01,479 them and and that might be something 3476 02:51:05,160 --> 02:51:02,710 that 3477 02:51:07,140 --> 02:51:05,170 maybe programmed in you know love is 3478 02:51:10,820 --> 02:51:07,150 something that we can't program in 3479 02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:10,830 anywhere and we're talking about 3480 02:51:17,520 --> 02:51:15,010 mechanization but nobody touch love it 3481 02:51:22,200 --> 02:51:17,530 is the glue that keeps this together it 3482 02:51:24,630 --> 02:51:22,210 is the glue that keeps the every single 3483 02:51:27,450 --> 02:51:24,640 relationship together it is the glue 3484 02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:27,460 that keeps the universe together whether 3485 02:51:31,710 --> 02:51:29,050 you want to go to God's love the 3486 02:51:37,040 --> 02:51:31,720 universal love the human love the animal 3487 02:51:40,740 --> 02:51:37,050 love or whatever love that that field is 3488 02:51:42,930 --> 02:51:40,750 indigenous to this planet the one act of 3489 02:51:45,030 --> 02:51:42,940 love this saves the world the act of 3490 02:51:46,530 --> 02:51:45,040 love which I think people should start 3491 02:51:50,310 --> 02:51:46,540 thinking about because that's more 3492 02:51:54,930 --> 02:51:50,320 powerful than any atomic bomb well how 3493 02:51:58,500 --> 02:51:54,940 do we get that into software do we have 3494 02:52:00,330 --> 02:51:58,510 to have compassion and consciousness and 3495 02:52:04,770 --> 02:52:00,340 love and empathy all of that does that 3496 02:52:08,670 --> 02:52:04,780 need to be a part of an AI program so 3497 02:52:11,160 --> 02:52:08,680 anything that would be a decision that 3498 02:52:13,490 --> 02:52:11,170 is made by the computer these other 3499 02:52:16,530 --> 02:52:13,500 things are took into consideration 3500 02:52:18,840 --> 02:52:16,540 because we take it into consideration in 3501 02:52:23,219 --> 02:52:18,850 our daily lives when we make a decision 3502 02:52:25,170 --> 02:52:23,229 right our own intelligence so do we do 3503 02:52:29,160 --> 02:52:25,180 that with artificial intelligence as 3504 02:52:34,590 --> 02:52:29,170 well well look at the end the Blade 3505 02:52:36,840 --> 02:52:34,600 Runner you know I mean II Roy that was 3506 02:52:40,280 --> 02:52:36,850 you know what was going to kill Deckard 3507 02:52:44,870 --> 02:52:40,290 Roy batty you have a choice Yeah right 3508 02:52:47,790 --> 02:52:44,880 daddy he he picked up he looked at him 3509 02:52:50,580 --> 02:52:47,800 he has one minute to decide he's gonna 3510 02:52:52,320 --> 02:52:50,590 let him drop he picks him up he throws 3511 02:52:55,290 --> 02:52:52,330 him against the wall that that scene is 3512 02:52:57,480 --> 02:52:55,300 incredible yesterday because he said he 3513 02:52:59,010 --> 02:52:57,490 said you people know you don't know when 3514 02:53:02,760 --> 02:52:59,020 you're gonna die we know when we're 3515 02:53:07,560 --> 02:53:02,770 gonna die and then and and and you know 3516 02:53:10,110 --> 02:53:07,570 and it was he was a programmed clone he 3517 02:53:13,320 --> 02:53:10,120 was programmed as a killing machine 3518 02:53:19,801 --> 02:53:13,330 actually yeah 3519 02:53:21,480 --> 02:53:19,811 no I would I would recommend to the 3520 02:53:23,220 --> 02:53:21,490 people who want to know more about this 3521 02:53:25,261 --> 02:53:23,230 to get into the mind of Philip dick by 3522 02:53:27,780 --> 02:53:25,271 the way he was involved with are here at 3523 02:53:31,110 --> 02:53:27,790 the intelligence community in his early 3524 02:53:33,980 --> 02:53:31,120 days Philip dick wrote Minority Report 3525 02:53:37,350 --> 02:53:33,990 to I mean 3526 02:53:41,551 --> 02:53:37,360 Mitaka bout Minority Report forever but 3527 02:53:43,590 --> 02:53:41,561 the thing is that if these are the 3528 02:53:45,030 --> 02:53:43,600 questions that we want to play with and 3529 02:53:47,400 --> 02:53:45,040 not everybody wants to play in this 3530 02:53:51,511 --> 02:53:47,410 arena they want to go back to UFOs 3531 02:53:53,761 --> 02:53:51,521 UFO landing traces you know contact if 3532 02:53:57,000 --> 02:53:53,771 you want to play in the arena of one 3533 02:53:59,490 --> 02:53:57,010 step further then you need to go and 3534 02:54:01,770 --> 02:53:59,500 read the works of Philip dick yeah have 3535 02:54:06,960 --> 02:54:01,780 you seen we've got about two minutes 3536 02:54:09,990 --> 02:54:06,970 have you seen electric dreams know is 3537 02:54:15,080 --> 02:54:10,000 that no is that out yeah that came out 3538 02:54:19,051 --> 02:54:15,090 last year and I think it's six or eight 3539 02:54:21,360 --> 02:54:19,061 episodes of philip k dick stories and 3540 02:54:24,240 --> 02:54:21,370 each one it's an anthology it's not one 3541 02:54:26,610 --> 02:54:24,250 long it's a TV series but it's different 3542 02:54:28,700 --> 02:54:26,620 directors different actors and it's it's 3543 02:54:31,590 --> 02:54:28,710 a run of philip k dick stories 3544 02:54:33,990 --> 02:54:31,600 absolutely incredible 3545 02:54:36,030 --> 02:54:34,000 where can I watch it I'll start tomorrow 3546 02:54:40,500 --> 02:54:36,040 where can i watch I think it's Amazon 3547 02:54:43,051 --> 02:54:40,510 Amazon or Netflix one of the two okay 3548 02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:43,061 electric dream so this is how I work as 3549 02:54:46,890 --> 02:54:45,010 a teacher because I have a Masters of 3550 02:54:49,860 --> 02:54:46,900 Education I'm getting myself ready for 3551 02:54:52,020 --> 02:54:49,870 my own conference that my own conference 3552 02:54:54,360 --> 02:54:52,030 it's November by the way six through 3553 02:54:57,450 --> 02:54:54,370 eight and O'Laughlin has to be a 3554 02:54:59,130 --> 02:54:57,460 learning experience for me I mean I lose 3555 02:55:03,210 --> 02:54:59,140 money every year so it isn't about money 3556 02:55:05,670 --> 02:55:03,220 it's about learning school it's about 3557 02:55:07,261 --> 02:55:05,680 school the reason why I do is because I 3558 02:55:09,060 --> 02:55:07,271 bring over all these international 3559 02:55:12,450 --> 02:55:09,070 people so there's these international 3560 02:55:15,660 --> 02:55:12,460 tickets but anyway that I want to know 3561 02:55:18,030 --> 02:55:15,670 and I want to be able to really play in 3562 02:55:20,190 --> 02:55:18,040 this arena of course we've got like 3563 02:55:22,860 --> 02:55:20,200 Lincoln Tie of the Phoenix lights we 3564 02:55:25,320 --> 02:55:22,870 have Paul Smith who is you know remote 3565 02:55:27,809 --> 02:55:25,330 viewing so we have everything 3566 02:55:28,590 --> 02:55:27,819 in Laughlin but yeah I'm gonna start 3567 02:55:30,990 --> 02:55:28,600 watching it 3568 02:55:32,820 --> 02:55:31,000 I'm thank you for mentioning it and you 3569 02:55:35,210 --> 02:55:32,830 know Sid Goldberg's gonna be there 3570 02:55:38,040 --> 02:55:35,220 talked to Sid earlier today in and 3571 02:55:40,830 --> 02:55:38,050 that's going to be incredible and the 3572 02:55:43,940 --> 02:55:40,840 way that you've assembled everybody here 3573 02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:43,950 we've got international and national 3574 02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:48,010 every every type of presenter and 3575 02:55:56,030 --> 02:55:53,200 researcher is there to to give their not 3576 02:55:59,610 --> 02:55:56,040 only their knowledge but but their take 3577 02:56:01,590 --> 02:55:59,620 on the future and AI I'm very excited 3578 02:56:03,300 --> 02:56:01,600 about this conference and and thank you 3579 02:56:04,580 --> 02:56:03,310 for inviting Rita and I it's going to be 3580 02:56:07,349 --> 02:56:04,590 amazing 3581 02:56:09,450 --> 02:56:07,359 well thank you for saying yes and by the 3582 02:56:11,040 --> 02:56:09,460 way I attend everybody's lectures and so 3583 02:56:14,250 --> 02:56:11,050 do the other speakers and that's very 3584 02:56:16,950 --> 02:56:14,260 rare so you know it's like a big college 3585 02:56:19,880 --> 02:56:16,960 in the world we're all and we all have 3586 02:56:22,440 --> 02:56:19,890 fun - we have a Frank Sinatra 3587 02:56:25,410 --> 02:56:22,450 impersonator who sings fly me to the 3588 02:56:27,059 --> 02:56:25,420 moon and and it'll be great because our 3589 02:56:29,010 --> 02:56:27,069 tail party's great the gala dinners 3590 02:56:31,740 --> 02:56:29,020 great and you mentioned the two movies 3591 02:56:33,719 --> 02:56:31,750 to top level films so thank you for 3592 02:56:36,809 --> 02:56:33,729 everything Jimmy it's been so much fun 3593 02:56:39,030 --> 02:56:36,819 talking to you you're the best listen 3594 02:56:42,660 --> 02:56:39,040 seriously I want everybody to go and 3595 02:56:44,219 --> 02:56:42,670 visit Starworks usa.com the links are 3596 02:56:46,710 --> 02:56:44,229 right there at Jimmy Church radio.com 3597 02:56:47,670 --> 02:56:46,720 all of the information and everything 3598 02:56:49,469 --> 02:56:47,680 that you need to know about the 3599 02:56:52,230 --> 02:56:49,479 conference the location the Aquarius 3600 02:56:54,389 --> 02:56:52,240 hotel all of it is right there the 3601 02:56:57,360 --> 02:56:54,399 ticket prices are right the rooms are 3602 02:56:59,820 --> 02:56:57,370 right the presenters are correct and 3603 02:57:03,500 --> 02:56:59,830 it's just going to be in an amazing time 3604 02:57:06,990 --> 02:57:03,510 so thank you so much thank you 3605 02:57:08,670 --> 02:57:07,000 Paula Harris Thank You Bala and listen 3606 02:57:11,719 --> 02:57:08,680 be safe out there in Colorado and 3607 02:57:15,780 --> 02:57:11,729 breathe some of that fresh air for me I 3608 02:57:18,630 --> 02:57:15,790 will have a great night and with that we 3609 02:57:23,610 --> 02:57:18,640 just went pole to pole beginning to end 3610 02:57:25,559 --> 02:57:23,620 and an amazing overtime segment there 3611 02:57:28,320 --> 02:57:25,569 too as well I want to thank everybody 3612 02:57:31,230 --> 02:57:28,330 for hanging out tonight why tomorrow 3613 02:57:33,900 --> 02:57:31,240 night is Fator night open lines all 3614 02:57:35,730 --> 02:57:33,910 night long tomorrow night right here on 3615 02:57:37,090 --> 02:57:35,740 fade to black we are going to give away 3616 02:57:39,820 --> 02:57:37,100 four more 3617 02:57:42,189 --> 02:57:39,830 memberships for those in need that are 3618 02:57:42,820 --> 02:57:42,199 staying at home so we're gonna do that 3619 02:57:44,740 --> 02:57:42,830 tomorrow night 3620 02:57:46,809 --> 02:57:44,750 and of course it's open lines the 3621 02:57:50,170 --> 02:57:46,819 paranormal supernatural loss history 3622 02:57:52,899 --> 02:57:50,180 UFOs conspiracy everything is on the 3623 02:57:55,540 --> 02:57:52,909 table and of course a little a little 3624 02:57:58,689 --> 02:57:55,550 food and music always seems to make its 3625 02:58:00,639 --> 02:57:58,699 way into the show with that I am out of 3626 02:58:03,070 --> 02:58:00,649 here I just want to say really quick 3627 02:58:05,260 --> 02:58:03,080 that it's all simple faith of blacks 3628 02:58:07,840 --> 02:58:05,270 executive producer is ritika Murray on 3629 02:58:10,030 --> 02:58:07,850 show is produced by Hill Jay Paul Renee 3630 02:58:13,090 --> 02:58:10,040 Dennis and Kevin announcers our Steve 3631 02:58:15,490 --> 02:58:13,100 Carter Jean Patou mrdiko bar webmaster 3632 02:58:19,500 --> 02:58:15,500 is drew the geek music doug aldrich 3633 02:58:23,590 --> 02:58:19,510 intro space boys space boy music.com 3634 02:58:27,219 --> 02:58:23,600 fade to black is produced by kjsurya and 3635 02:58:29,649 --> 02:58:27,229 syndication as kg ra the planet this 3636 02:58:31,330 --> 02:58:29,659 broadcast zona copyright of 2020 by fade 3637 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